DQ`d from Comp - do hcap alterations still apply ?

[oltimer]

DQ`d for arriving very very late for tee time, originally incorrectly thought 2 shot pen applied.
When cards returned was advised the correct penalty was dq.
played to well below the hcap - question being should the handicap still be adjusted ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes it should :thup:

 

[oltimer]

thanks for that

 

[Colin L]

Yes it should :thup:

Sorry to contradict, Phil, but a DQ under 6-3 for being more than 5 minutes late is one of the DQs where the score is not acceptable for handicap.

See Appendix P of your CONGU Manual (pp 91 & 92)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry to contradict, Phil, but a DQ under 6-3 for being more than 5 minutes late is one of the DQs where the score is not acceptable for handicap.

See Appendix P of your CONGU Manual (pp 91 & 92)

Now that's interesting cheers Colin because the system allowed the score to count when i had the same issue so I queried it and was told they count when i contacted Congu so will go back to them again and find out why I was given wrong info - cheers Colin

 

[oltimer]

Seems Colin is correct, shame - 7 under and no adjustment then.

 

[Colin L]

Ah, but there is an adjustment which I forgot to mention. Just to rub salt into that painful wound, your card is treated as a nil return and you have a 0.1 increase. See the explanation above the table on p92.

 

[oltimer]

yuk

 

[Colin L]

yuk

Sorry!

I rely on you not to point a gun at the messenger.

 

[lukeysafc100]

Pretty sure the club could still adjust and just put this as a supplementary score card?

 

[Imurg]

Sorry to contradict, Phil, but a DQ under 6-3 for being more than 5 minutes late is one of the DQs where the score is not acceptable for handicap.

See Appendix P of your CONGU Manual (pp 91 & 92)

I can't see a reason why a score shouldn't be accepted just because you're late teeing off...you're still playing the course under competition conditions..
DQ from the comp but surely you have to take the card..? If you still get a 0.1 back then you must be able to be cut, logically.....
I'm not sure which depresses me more...the above or the fact that the CONGU manual is 113 pages long.........

 

[duncan mackie]

Pretty sure the club could still adjust and just put this as a supplementary score card?

No they could not.

What they may do is note the situation and use it in conjunction with any other data if they have either an AR or reason to consider a GPA.

 

[Pro Zach]

I can't see a reason why a score shouldn't be accepted just because you're late teeing off...you're still playing the course under competition conditions..
DQ from the comp but surely you have to take the card..? If you still get a 0.1 back then you must be able to be cut, logically.....
I'm not sure which depresses me more...the above or the fact that the CONGU manual is 113 pages long.........

Possibly because the DQ for being late is a rule of golf. If the player knows the rules then he starts knowing he is disqualified. The psychological pressure of playing a game trying to win is very different to playing knowing you can’t win. So the scores aren’t comparable.

Your ‘logical’ argument would only be true if the 0.1 increase was based on the score, but it isn’t. You can’t be adjusted either way based on the score because the card is classed as a no return [of score]. The increase is because no score was returned.