Does Donalds play today prove something to us hackers?

[haplesshacker]

Considering how wayward he's been off the tee, he's scoring remarkedly well.

Does this conclusively prove that iron play and short game skills are more important than driving length or accuracy? Or is his putting so amazing, that that is what's holding it all together?

Sorry. Too many questions.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Tiger has made a career out of doing what Donald has done today.

 

[Matty]

I think he's shown that a solid, reliable and consistent short game can help you win over massive but inconsistent hitters.

 

[Soco11]

I think it does, yet if the secret is let out a lot of driving ranges would lose a lot of money!! Better off building a chipping green!

 

[G1BB0]

actually thats a good point, most places you can only use short game/putting facilities as a member of the club, shame really.

And to answer the question no, you still need a decent long game and off the tee, they just make it look easier than we do when in the mire

 

[Region3]

Well I'll disagree and say no, until more than 50% of tournaments are won by (relatively) short hitters with great short games.

I think it proves there's more than one way to successfully play the game.

 

[CrapHacker]

If Lee and Luke had been level this morning, then it proves that Lee's game plan holds up better under pressure.

It also proves that Westwood is a pretty poor putter when the pressure REALLY bites.

Having said that, I don't know why Westwood didn't try to use his strengths in the playoff ( his length and long game play ) and try and take teh game to Luke. FFS Donald is no.1 at the short game - Lee was always 2nd favourite as soon as he played short off the tee.

So basically, one has a good long game, and the other has a good short game. Both could easily have won this tournament.

 

[bobmac]

They were both 100 yards to go ish. Luke put on the pressure and Lee has to go for the pin. He was only 3 feet too far left.
I wonder what would have happened if it had been Lee to go first?

 

[thecraw]

Luke was a jammy so and so today. Rode his luck better than a lucky leprechauch rubbing a lucky penny with a lucky rabbits foot in his pocket while picking his golf balls out of a lucky bag.

I guess its the old saying, the better you play the luckier you get but by christ I've never seen anyone get the breaks that Luke got today. How many times can you visit trees and get that lucky???

Answers on a postcard.

Oh, well done anyway Luke.

 

[Tommo21]

Luke was a jammy so and so today. Rode his luck better than a lucky leprechauch rubbing a lucky penny with a lucky rabbits foot in his pocket while picking his golf balls out of a lucky bag.

I guess its the old saying, the better you play the luckier you get but by christ I've never seen anyone get the breaks that Luke got today. How many times can you visit trees and get that lucky???

Answers on a postcard.

Oh, well done anyway Luke.

Only the late Seve could answer that.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Luke was a jammy so and so today. Rode his luck better than a lucky leprechauch rubbing a lucky penny with a lucky rabbits foot in his pocket while picking his golf balls out of a lucky bag.

I guess its the old saying, the better you play the luckier you get but by christ I've never seen anyone get the breaks that Luke got today. How many times can you visit trees and get that lucky???

Answers on a postcard.

Oh, well done anyway Luke.

You mean like the lucky break Westwood got (twice) when clattering his tee shot on 18 into the trees and bouncing out? Or like the lucky break he got on 15( I think) and bouncing out and then getting a drop from the path that enabled him to go for the green and make birdie.

Donald had some luck but let's not pretend it was a one way street

 

[thecraw]

Who is pretending anything you tit????

Where did I mention anything about any other player? Donald clearly had luck on his side all day, plain and simple. The amount of times he visited trees you would believe he was squirrel.

Climb back down from your Donald soapbox.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Who is pretending anything you tit????

Where did I mention anything about any other player? Donald clearly had luck on his side all day, plain and simple. The amount of times he visited trees you would believe he was squirrel.

Climb back down from your Donald soapbox.

How mature calling people a tit - you feel better now?

No you didn't mention any other player but by not doing so you make out the Donald was the only lucky one which he clearly wasn't.

Let's have a discussion about it and disagree if we want to but don't descend to abuse, it gets you no where and frankly I didn't think that's what happened on this forum, maybe it's not so different to the rest of the Internet after all

 

[thecraw]

Ok petal, your way too mature for me. You can go back to your Donaldfest now.

X

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Ok petal, your way too mature for me. You can go back to your Donaldfest now.

X

Thanks

 

[HomerJSimpson]

And of course Donald never rode his luck in the opening nine holes yesterday when his play could have yielded even bigger numbers. Lets face it at some point in every event the winner is going to get a few breaks that they can capitalise on. No-one hits every fairway and green all the time. Personally I enjoyed the spectacle today and thought it was great to see to English players slugging it out with a third (Dyson) just about holding on to them.

Not sure Donald's play proves anything we didn't already know. You don't have to bomb it miles to win and a stellar short game is crucial to succed. We know that, some of us even practice it but it is getting to the point Donald was in a play-off and absolutely 100% trusting it to come off when you need it most that is the biggest separating factor between these guys and even the good amateurs.

 

[richart]

They were both 100 yards to go ish. Luke put on the pressure and Lee has to go for the pin. He was only 3 feet too far left.
I wonder what would have happened if it had been Lee to go first?

Peter Allis was right when he said it is good to get your shot in first, as long as it's a good one. If Donald had spun back into the water, i am sure Westwood would have played to the fat of the green. That was no choke to me. If he had need a five to win and had done that, a different matter.

 

[haplesshacker]

You're at 100 yards, up against arguably the best short game player in the world, and he's just nailed it. I'd say the pressure was definately on Lee. Even if Lee had played it safe to the middle of the green, he'd still have to single putt just to force another play off hole. And on that 18th, I couldn't see Lee putting the pressure on Luke from the tee. I don't believe that Lee would've tried the green in two. But that was the only way to put the pressure on Luke.

Lee might not of played to his strengths, but he didn't play to put the pressure on Lukes weaknesses.

 

[haplesshacker]

Oh that, and that the playoff essentially becomes a matchplay contest. Which again, Luke is stronger at. Despite his playoff record!!

 

[Imurg]

Oh that, and that the playoff essentially becomes a matchplay contest. Which again, Luke is stronger at. Despite his playoff record!!

Exactly what I said to Fragger. He mentioned that a play-off is basically Matchplay and my reply was "Well who's the best Matchplayer in the World..?"