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Do YOU release the golf club?

Do you release the club?

  • I deliberately release the club

    Votes: 10 38.5%

  • The club releases by itself

    Votes: 16 61.5%
  • Total voters
    26
Khamelion said:
The release is getting the club face back to square ready for impact, most golfers do not need to think about it as for most it happens naturally, but for some it a thought path that has to be grooved in to become second nature.

Me for instance I got the release after impact and I was hitting the ball with an open club face, however through practice and drills I can for the most part get the release timed for impact and have the club face back to square.
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As I said, its a position after impact where both arms are fully extended. If you can reach this position then impact will take care of it's self.
 
virtuocity said:
All I'm trying to do is create discussion on the technical aspects of the swing. I enjoy discussing the swing, even the nitty-gritty bits, but sorry if this seems pointless.
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If you are REALLY interested in the technical aspects of the swing, check out the articles in the following reference. http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/ What I would call 'unbiased' in that he's not a Professional with a method to push. Heavy going at times, though if you have read Homer Kelly's 'The Golf Machine' it helps - mainly with terms like PA4, LAFW and the like.
 
SocketRocket said:
As I said, its a position after impact where both arms are fully extended. If you can reach this position then impact will take care of it's self.
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Khamelion said:
From what I am being taught and Bob is going to tell me otherwise, but none the less:-

  1. On take away club goes back to waist height.
  2. At waist height, you hinge your wrists and continue your back swing.
  3. The down swing starts with a very slight lateral movement of the left hip and shoulder towards the target.
  4. Down swing starts and you drop the club, the feeling is the club head is behind you and your right elbow tucks in at the wasit.
  5. You then start your hip turn with your left hip (for right handed golfers) starting to pull back and your left leg starting to straighten, back of left shoulder still pointing at target.
  6. With club now lagging behind, the butt is pointing at 1 o'clock of target.
  7. Arms swing through and wrists unhinge at the ball, impact.
  8. Left leg straight, heel planted, left arm straight, club face square.
  9. On follow through club head feels as if it is going out to 1 o'clock.

The unhinging of the wrists is my understanding of release, the longer the club the earlier you have to do it.

Although all the points above are listed, it all happens so fast the result feels simultaneous, it's getting all points in order and getting the synchronicity correct. Points 5, 6 and 7 happen almost together.
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Exactly Socket, that's what I have wrote in point 7 and from the article from GolfWrx it what the last picture shows, let arm coming into impact straight with wrist unhinging (left hand image) and then impact, club face square, left arm straight (right hand image)

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Khamelion said:
Exactly Socket, that's what I have wrote in point 7 and from the article from GolfWrx it what the last picture shows, let arm coming into impact straight with wrist unhinging (left hand image) and then impact, club face square, left arm straight (right hand image)

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I think this is what Socket is referring to - about 18" after impact with arms fully extended.

In the second of the pics you sho, the arms aren't fully extended.
http://www.golfwrx.com/110394/aiming-for-a-late-release-point/watsonrelease-2/
 
It happens through natural process of my swing, thats basically as simply as I can put it. I don't make a concsious effort to release it but through natrual process the club releases and when I start thinking about it instead of letting it happen things go wrong!
 
I accidentally release it too early, I try to hold it off for longer but don't always manage. It can get a bit hooky :(
 
Khamelion said:
From what I am being taught and Bob is going to tell me otherwise, but none the less:-

  1. On take away club goes back to waist height.
  2. At waist height, you hinge your wrists and continue your back swing.
  3. Down swing starts and you drop the club, the feeling is the club head is behind you and your right elbow tucks in at the wasit.
  4. You then start your hip turn with your left hip (for right handed golfers) starting to pull back and your left leg starting to straighten, back of left shoulder still pointing at target.
  5. With club now lagging behind, the butt is pointing at 1 o'clock of target.
  6. Arms swing through and wrists unhinge at the ball, impact.
  7. Left leg straight, heel planted, left arm straight, club face square.
  8. On follow through club head feels as if it is going out to 1 o'clock.

The unhinging of the wrists is my understanding of release, the longer the club the earlier you have to do it.

Although all the points above are listed, it all happens so fast the result feels simultaneous, it's getting all points in order and getting the synchronicity correct. Points 5, 6 and 7 happen almost together.
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Welcome to hook and push and slap city, if that is what your pro is teaching you he should be fined!!!
 
Fader said:
Very Constructive that! Perhaps enlighten him as to why his pro should be fined..
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Im with Fader on this one.....

Its a bit of a weird statement to make without elaborating on why!

Iv been through similar to what the OP has posted before the start of the season.....I may not have been told all of whats in the post but all those things his Pro wants him to do have a cause and effect......Im guessing the OP has an out to in swingpath much like i did.....

The reason he wants him to go from 7 to 1 is to go to a complete extreme of the way he was swinging the club.....Once he gets him doing that then its a relatively easier journey to be able to swing on a better path......
Everyone knows that a out to in path is a very steep angle into the ball..... In order to shallow that out the Pro has mare than likely got him staying behind the ball with his head and swinging out towards 1 o clock....... Its practically impossible to hit accross the body when you have a feeling of hitting away towards 1 o clock....
I certainly havent managed it yet anyway......

And for what its worth.....Im 7 months after a swing plane change and im still struggling with it...My miss now is a push...... which can vary from a few yards to a push slice......I was struggling with thins initially....And shanks so i know exactly what he is going through.... There are days when i pure almost everything i put a club behind.... But there are days when its like iv picked up a club for the first time in my life.....
 
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kid2 said:
Im with Fader on this one.....

Its a bit of a weird statement to make without elaborating on why!

Iv been through similar to what the OP has posted before the start of the season.....I may not have been told all of whats in the post but all those things his Pro wants him to do have a cause and effect......Im guessing the OP has an out to in swingpath much like i did.....

The reason he wants him to go from 7 to 1 is to go to a complete extreme of the way he was swinging the club.....Once he gets him doing that then its a relatively easier journey to be able to swing on a better path......
Everyone knows that a out to in path is a very steep angle into the ball..... In order to shallow that out the Pro has mare than likely got him staying behind the ball with his head and swinging out towards 1 o clock....... Its practically impossible to hit accross the body when you have a feeling of hitting away towards 1 o clock....
I certainly havent managed it yet anyway......

And for what its worth.....Im 7 months after a swing plane change and im still struggling with it...My miss now is a push...... which can vary from a few yards to a push slice......I was struggling with thins initially....And shanks so i know exactly what he is going through.... There are days when i pure almost everything i put a club behind.... But there are days when its like iv picked up a club for the first time in my life.....
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You and me both. My problem at the moment is not the days where I feel like I've never held a club as they are few and far between now, its actually the keeping it going for 18 holes. My last 4 rounds I've had no few than 8 pars with a birdie or 2 thrown in but the holes where its not functioning are killing me. This weekend just gone I started pish and couldn't feel my swing for 4 holes then holes 5-13 it just clicked and played them in -3, think at that point I was getting a nose bleed managed to rip a tee shot on 14 then came the spaghetti swing and hacked it wildly all the way home to miss handicap and buffer again! Poxy game.
 
Fader said:
You and me both. My problem at the moment is not the days where I feel like I've never held a club as they are few and far between now, its actually the keeping it going for 18 holes. My last 4 rounds I've had no few than 8 pars with a birdie or 2 thrown in but the holes where its not functioning are killing me. This weekend just gone I started pish and couldn't feel my swing for 4 holes then holes 5-13 it just clicked and played them in -3, think at that point I was getting a nose bleed managed to rip a tee shot on 14 then came the spaghetti swing and hacked it wildly all the way home to miss handicap and buffer again! Poxy game.
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Like a mirror image of me Pal.... I wont give in out of pure stubbornness though..... Iv come a long way from the way i used to swing....And from the first night i walked into my Pro i told him i didnt care how long it took me to change my swing plane....Im in it for the long haul if needs be.....

Like you im finding it hard to keep it all in control for the whole round....... Patience ....:thup:
 
kid2 said:
Like a mirror image of me Pal.... I wont give in out of pure stubbornness though..... Iv come a long way from the way i used to swing....And from the first night i walked into my Pro i told him i didnt care how long it took me to change my swing plane....Im in it for the long haul if needs be.....

Like you im finding it hard to keep it all in control for the whole round....... Patience ....:thup:
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Oh I'm as stubborn as a mule and it will not beat me..... YET....

Its the fact those low numbers mid round are happening that makes me know the changes are the right thing to continue with because once it finally settles and feels natural it'll click in and I know it'll make me more consistent especially as now its a case of not an entire round of garbage its just a couple of holes here and there.
 
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