Do they matter to you?

[bobmac]

2 perfect examples...

Howdy, playing a competition 4Ball 3/4 handicaps ( 2 to score each hole, stableford ). Being told that even 4's is a good score but also being told that we would need mid to high eighty points. What is a good score? Best score we have so far is 76 points.

Playing in a comp at the weekend and this happened. A fellow competitor marked his ball on the green and then removed his marker leaving his ball ready to put. He never addressed the ball but dropped his club by accident and his ball moved. Got the ruling from the pro prior to signing the card but would like a second opinion.

2 strangers, 2 1st posts and not a please or thankyou to be seen

 

[Yerman]

"Manners maketh the man" ...especially grumpy ones.

 

[bobmac]

"Manners maketh the man" ...especially grumpy ones.

Grumpy? you want Grumpy?

Nil illigitimis carburundum is the school motto for St. Trinians.

A better translation would be
Illegitimi non carborundum

humph !!!!!

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Why should someone use please and thank you for a general query?

Surely, once a response has been garnered, then a thank you but for the original question (which is to a large populus) no such phrases are required.

 

[bobmac]

I would say please and thanks in both the above requests for advice.
Maybe an age thing

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Why?

If you were asking an individual then yes, please and thank you are in order.

But, if you're asking a group then I don't believe please and thank you are required.

For example, the coffee machine at my club is 80p for a latte. You can guarantee that the £1 you have won't be accepted by the machine so, you turn around and say to the collected masses in the clubhouse:

"Can anyone swap this pound for me?"

You're not being rude, you're simply addressing a crowd.

Once someone steps forward to swap your offending pound then, of course, you thank them for their kindness.

I think an internet forum is the same. You ask your question to the masses and then thank the individuals that reply.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sorry Bob but to a degree I think it is a touch of grumpy old man syndrome. It's an open forum and like it or loathe it, text speak is becoming more and more standard across all mediums and so it's not surprise to see it on here. As long as it isn't all in txt spk so I can at least get the jist I'm not overly fussed. As for manners, again, not really the pre-requisite on here to say please or thank you but in general day to day life I am totally with you. I hate rudeness and ignorance but sadly the yoof of today in particular have no concept of politeness and good manners (yes I am being generalistic) and often see teens strutting round the hospital never holding doors for the old and ill or tutting if an old dear with a stick is in their way. Cest la vie. Maybe 45 is the new 60 and its Ping all the way for me

 

[viscount17]

Sorry AW, but whether to an individual or en masse, it is still desirable that, in that scenario, please is used, especially as you are requesting a 'service'.

 

[Smiffy]

Sorry AW, but whether to an individual or en masse, it is still desirable that, in that scenario, please is used, especially as you are requesting a 'service'.

I agree with my fat, furry friend

 

[jammydodger]

I dont think its right to just have a pop at the youth of today for their supposed ill manners. As far as i'm concerned the oldies are the worst for bad manners without a doubt. They seem to think they have a right to be rude or ignorant and expect everyone to accept it just because they are old. I wont go into specific details as that will just bore you but take it from me I see more general rudeness from older people than the younger ones.

 

[19thagain]

I think it was young Mr Bladeplayer who commented in his offering "it is the way you were brought up" and I have to agree with this point, as displayed in many of the cases I have experienced!