Daily Mail!
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Haven't read a red top rag for 24 years and never will
Disgusting things that have caused so much damage
Should all be closed down
Disgusting things that have caused so much damage
Should all be closed down
Doon frae Troon
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Looks like EIP [sorry UKIP] now has a sponsor
English Nigel seems to have forgotten that the population of Rumania is under 27 million.
English Nigel seems to have forgotten that the population of Rumania is under 27 million.
Andy808
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So the population of Bulgaria is only 2 million then?
Same old same old from the Daily Fail. Scaremongering in the extreme.
If the SNP want independence why haven't they enrolled the support of the Mail?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Will be interesting to see how the flood of Romanians and Bulgarians starting tomorrow impacts upon the UKIP (EIP?) showing in the forthcoming European elections - and then if those voting in the Scottish referendum notice.
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palindromicbob
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UK borders according the the daily fail.
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Already getting hundreds of applications for HCA and portering jobs from Romanina and Bulgarian nationals still with home addresses in their own country. There is definitely a flood coming, Its just a question of scale
SwingsitlikeHogan
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could we be facing a tidal wave of tsunami proportions? Though judging from TV News shots of big stores opening doors on Boxing Day sales in London the Chinese have already taken over London!
...and is it that we Brits find sweeping a corridor, pushing a trolley or wiping someone's bum beneath us?
SocketRocket
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Had a look at the Mail online. I dont have a printed copy honest
This is a clip:
When controls imposed in 2005 are lifted tomorrow, 29 million from the two countries will gain the right to work in Britain.
This is a clip:
When controls imposed in 2005 are lifted tomorrow, 29 million from the two countries will gain the right to work in Britain.
chrisd
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Ah ! But the headline did its job if it took your notice and made you read the story! Isn't that what newspapers print bold headlines for?
Farage and the Mail are quite right though, the total population of both countries are within their rights to use any available mode of transport, pitch up here and look for work and claim benefits. Now, for me, if only 10,000 choose to do so I would still personally object to tax I've paid being used to pay benefits and house people, give them free NHS care and schooling in a situation, if we went to their country, assistance wouldn't be reciprocated.
I'm not against immigration where people come into the country, on a points system, to take pre agreed and necessary jobs and support themselves on entry. In fact one of my best pals is Indian and he and his family did just that and provide much needed sevices to the community.
Also, the increase in the crime rate, brushed under the carpet, caused by the criminals coming in is getting worse and when Romas come, well I hope they don't live in your street, if they do then lock everything up! I know this will be controversial but I am not racist just a realist!
I'm old enough to remember that when we voted for the, then, Common Market, we didn't realise the extent to which politicians would go and had we known were we'd be today, I doubt we would have voted yes!
Farage and the Mail are quite right though, the total population of both countries are within their rights to use any available mode of transport, pitch up here and look for work and claim benefits. Now, for me, if only 10,000 choose to do so I would still personally object to tax I've paid being used to pay benefits and house people, give them free NHS care and schooling in a situation, if we went to their country, assistance wouldn't be reciprocated.
I'm not against immigration where people come into the country, on a points system, to take pre agreed and necessary jobs and support themselves on entry. In fact one of my best pals is Indian and he and his family did just that and provide much needed sevices to the community.
Also, the increase in the crime rate, brushed under the carpet, caused by the criminals coming in is getting worse and when Romas come, well I hope they don't live in your street, if they do then lock everything up! I know this will be controversial but I am not racist just a realist!
I'm old enough to remember that when we voted for the, then, Common Market, we didn't realise the extent to which politicians would go and had we known were we'd be today, I doubt we would have voted yes!
drawboy
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Politicians line their own pockets. They do not care about anyone else but themselves, it is a job they have to pay to get into. I cannot believe that they would undermine the country if they were not getting anything in return. Selective immigration as in the Australian mode is good and does work. Mass immigration where people can come without a job and then look for work is a disaster for any country. The fact that after a mere 12 weeks without employment they can claim the same benefits as you or I is a bloody disgrace and needs stopping immediately. I have paid for many years into this society to enable me to get a short term payment between jobs, they have paid nothing. How many would come without the parachute of benefits to fall back on?
MegaSteve
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Plenty of 'Brits' doing this sort of work...
Think its more a case of employers wishing not to pay at least the minimum wage and or provide decent/proper working conditions....
Makes me laugh when government says it will work to ensure new immigrants won't solely be used as 'cheap' labour... Can't do anything else right so why do they think they can meet this 'promise'...
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As long as they contribute to the country in terms of employment and don't just claim benefits then I have no problems with people arriving
jp5
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Of course, I don't think anyone has a problem with that (except on the basis of overpopulation of this small island and the issues that leads to). What is problematic is the ease in which people can abuse the system which is meant to act as a safety net to people.
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Interesting that you quote Australia as an example.
Apart from the Aborigines they are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants, and as for the human rights extended to the indigenous population.
No, sorry Australia is not a shining example.
SocketRocket
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I cant see the Roma doing that. They tend to bring a great deal of crime with them and are looking to exploit any system they can.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Not a good idea to open a post on a controversial subject with a couple of statements that you know are just hyperbole - as it tends to set readers expectations on whether or not what you say is actually going to state a reasonable point of view.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and plenty not doing it if immigrants can get these jobs whilst our fellows decline the opportunity...can't blame employers if they can get away with paying less than the minimum wage and immigrants willing to work for that amount.
MegaSteve
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If they are paying less than minimum wage then they are also not likely to be meeting their other 'obligations' leaving 'us' to make up the difference...
If employers want the benefit of EU membership then they have to sign up for the whole package not just the bits they like the look of....
austraia is the perfect model for how it works now, not how it came to be.
Australia has no population problems due to these measure. If there was no initial immigration then Australia would be just another part of the world we'd be feeding with comic relief money. As the indigenous people would still have populated the country but without our technology would face the same problems many African countries do.
Pas for the Op. As many have said, I have no problem with people coming here to work. It's those that come here to sponge I object too, but then that can be said for plenty of estates up and down the country that sign on week in week out, whilst making no attempt to get a job!
