Cutting down shafts / effecting swing weight

[PJ87]

Decided to take the plunge and cut down my M2 from 45.75 inch to 44.5 I have been gripping down on and off with it , have much better results when I grip down. (plus when trying out the club the guy did say grip down on it, should have done all these changes then but nevermind)

been doing my research came across a few threads

every 1/4 inch off shaft affects the swing weight by 1.5 so I will have affected it by 7.5

to combate this I have ordered a golf pride 25g grip , found out every 5g taken off the grip weight will affect the swing weight the other direction by 1 so approx 4/5 swing weight taken off the 7.5 leaving me with 2.5/3.5 total off

I have then ordered a 8g weight for the head to replace the stock 4g weight as every 2g of weight adds 1 point so the 4g difference will take 2 off the either 2.5/3.5

I will end up with a shorter M2 shaft (can always buy a replacement shaft if I ever want to go back and keep the weight in a draw) the swing weight of which should be either 0.5 or 1.5 out.. or inbetween .. so only 1.. I can live with that


Next is my 3 wood, TM M2 high launch.. I want it set up as more of a 4 wood. cut the 43.25 shaft down to 42.5 affecting the swing weight by 4.5, again I have ordered the lighter grip to balance this out by between 4 and 5 (depends on the weight of the old grip)

whilst im there my pro is taking the M2 grip and sticking on my older 4 Hybrid just because then all my grips would be the same age (within 3 months) so when comes to changing I will just do them all in one hit

wish me luck!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I've very little idea of what you've just posted but it sounds great. I'm someone who would prefer a shorter shaft on their driver so I like the sound of shortening the shaft. That is quite some thought you have put into it. Good luck, please post how you get on :thup:

 

[Maninblack4612]

This may help you once you've completed the job http://www.leaderboard.com/SWINGWEIGHT
I've compared the results with measurements made on a swing weight machine & it's fairly accurate.

 

[PJ87]

This may help you once you've completed the job http://www.leaderboard.com/SWINGWEIGHT
I've compared the results with measurements made on a swing weight machine & it's fairly accurate.

Cheers MIB will look into it more when Ive completed my little project!

LT ill keep the thread posted.. time to find more fairways

 

[fundy]

having an inch lopped off an M1 shaft this week, will see how it feels before making any adjustments to weighting

 

[PJ87]

having an inch lopped off an M1 shaft this week, will see how it feels before making any adjustments to weighting

Glad I am not the only one chopping some off the sharp of the driver.. bloody long things!

 

[fundy]

Glad I am not the only one chopping some off the sharp of the driver.. bloody long things!

Been doing it for years mate, stock length is utterly ridiculous and im all but 6ft5!

 

[PJ87]

Been doing it for years mate, stock length is utterly ridiculous and im all but 6ft5!

Must have some success aswell to keep returning to it aswell im guessing

Its annoying that tour pros average 44.5 shaft length however we mer mortals are sold stock shafts that are all longer.. how are we to control this if the pros prefer not to? god knows

Ill defo change the grip to a nice new 25g grip, might not use the head weight but least ill be happy in my mind.. (for a week lol)

 

[fundy]

Must have some success aswell to keep returning to it aswell im guessing

Its annoying that tour pros average 44.5 shaft length however we mer mortals are sold stock shafts that are all longer.. how are we to control this if the pros prefer not to? god knows

Ill defo change the grip to a nice new 25g grip, might not use the head weight but least ill be happy in my mind.. (for a week lol)

success is a matter of opinion, its straighter than a longer one, still not straight enough lol

for someone who uses a mid size grip (plus 4 so thicker on bottom hand too) light grip not really an option for me will get it swingweighted if i feel the need after a few weeks

 

[PJ87]

success is a matter of opinion, its straighter than a longer one, still not straight enough lol

for someone who uses a mid size grip (plus 4 so thicker on bottom hand too) light grip not really an option for me will get it swingweighted if i feel the need after a few weeks

Im lucky in a way, I have tiny girl hands so normal grips are fine

id take straight over long any day.. better to be 240 yards on the fairway than 280 yards in a tree as my mate says

 

[Qwerty]

Considering the emphasis on custom fit nowadays and the current crazy price of drivers I'm surprised altering the shaft length and adjusting the swing weight accordingly isn't an option unless you go to a specialist club fitter.. They should at least include different weights.

Id imagine longer shaft doesn't always = faster swing speed, Theres got to be an optimum length before length starts to become detrimental.
Im 6ft and I usually just cut 1/2" off, I agree though, the standard length of most driver shafts is ridiculous as is £350+ for the club itself.

 

[Oddsocks]

I have the xr16 driver and when I tried it I also tested the shorter shaft from the fusion, the difference was unreal.

I managed to find another speeder in the same stock spec off line and had to cut almost 1.75 inches off to get it to the fusion spec.

What was funny is after all that it's still only the same length as a stock g30 and g30 sf tech. Maybe this explains why the G range is so successful at club level

 

[PJ87]

Ordered a different weight off ebay (9g) paid £9.99 instead of £6.99 that I paid for the 8g weight however didnt realise the other was from a hong kong seller.. plus will take few days longer to arrive lol would rather pay the more and get the 9g .. slightly better gramage aswell

takes the formula to 7.5 re added to a club that will have lost 7.5 with cutting down

well approx.. may add 6.5 but worth doing to keep the m2 at its best whilst cutting down

im nights this week so perfect time to play about.. once the grips arrived ill get the clubs cut down

weight can be added in the week

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Ordered a different weight off ebay (9g) paid £9.99 instead of £6.99 that I paid for the 8g weight however didnt realise the other was from a hong kong seller.. plus will take few days longer to arrive lol would rather pay the more and get the 9g .. slightly better gramage aswell

takes the formula to 7.5 re added to a club that will have lost 7.5 with cutting down

well approx.. may add 6.5 but worth doing to keep the m2 at its best whilst cutting down

im nights this week so perfect time to play about.. once the grips arrived ill get the clubs cut down

weight can be added in the week

How do Titleist deal with just offering weigh kits for the head? I'm confused as the 917 weights can be as much as 10g diferent, but shaft length won't change.

 

[PJ87]

How do Titleist deal with just offering weigh kits for the head? I'm confused as the 917 weights can be as much as 10g diferent, but shaft length won't change.

they prob have a guide to use of the weights (maybe online based) where if they add this it will make it X swing weight etc etc

like their old adjustable 3 woods where you could take it down loft or draw/fade basis based on which setting you put on the hossel thing

 

[Deleted member 16999]

they prob have a guide to use of the weights (maybe online based) where if they add this it will make it X swing weight etc etc

like their old adjustable 3 woods where you could take it down loft or draw/fade basis based on which setting you put on the hossel thing

I have the 917 Driver and 3 Wood and have considered buying different weights to see if it makes any difference, your posts about weights compensating for shaft length has intrigued me as I can't find any information online as to how it would affect the Club, it recommends being fitted correctly to the "best" weight.

 

[Maninblack4612]

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I have the 917 Driver and 3 Wood and have considered buying different weights to see if it makes any difference, your posts about weights compensating for shaft length has intrigued me as I can't find any information online as to how it would affect the Club, it recommends being fitted correctly to the "best" weight.

This is quite interesting

http://tutelman.com/golf/clubs/headweight1.php#constant_length_cochran

 

[Deleted member 16999]

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This is quite interesting

http://tutelman.com/golf/clubs/headweight1.php#constant_length_cochran

With the Titleist weights ranging from 8-16grams and reading the article, I'm not sure it would make any difference at my level.

Cheers Bill.

 

[Junior]

What's swingweight ? Does it make a lot of difference?

So if you order a custom driver/fairway with a shorter shaft (as you can do on Clubhousegolf.co.uk) will the swing weight be effected ? Does anyone know if they do anything to correct it ?

 

[PJ87]

I have the 917 Driver and 3 Wood and have considered buying different weights to see if it makes any difference, your posts about weights compensating for shaft length has intrigued me as I can't find any information online as to how it would affect the Club, it recommends being fitted correctly to the "best" weight.

oh dear what have I started lol

I found the little formula on another forum which is

every 1/4 inch cut off shaft is 1.5 is swing weights reduced

every 5g removed from grip weight is 1 swing weight added

every 2g added to the head of the club 1 swing weight added

so I worked with the figures just so in my OCD head the swing weight is the same as when I started (so I have nothing to blame but myself!)

when I saw a 9g weight I was in heaven as that's the missing 0.5 lol

deciding between 14 degree loft and 12 degree loft at the moment.. before didn't overly mind because the grip didn't have an alignment with the face as it was (tour velvet 360 grip) so could switch as I liked

now I think lock the loft into place and go for it from there

leaning towards 14 as that's what I was hitting at AG, was told to "choke down" and keep the loft

I did for months keep the loft (hardly choked down) , changed the loft a month ago and lost some distance.. (switching to hovering aswell as teeing up to help me hit more on up) so thinking 14 degree loft and just swing easy

My next club is 16.5 degree loft anyways so might be good gap to have of 2.5