wjemather
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Rough is less of a challenge for scratch golfers than higher handicappers - the effect is different.
Gorse is a penalty shot whether you're a scratch golfer or a 36 handicapper - the effect is the same.
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Gorse is a penalty shot whether you're a scratch golfer or a 36 handicapper - the effect is the same.
Arthur Wedge
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Our greens have at least 2 breaks and extreme slopes
The Pga come 2-3 times a year to the course to host the Essex, east Anglia opens and this year the pga championship
Definitely feel like they wouldn't come if it was easy lol
PGA’s go to courses/clubs that are ok to host them , clubs willing to close the course for a day to its membership - not many do
The course is the right set up for Pro Ams etc
As opposed to just picking a hard course
When we played there a few years back it felt a course that you could open your shoulders a little , had a lot of run , we played off the whites and the course rating was around par which was fine - gave me one shot
But the other time off the yellows it a lot easier and had to play of +1
We all scored better there than our home clubs ( they are members at Purdis )
AussieKB
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Love Purdis......played there quite a few times as the In Laws lived just outside of Sudbury.
Arthur Wedge
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It’s a brilliant course - very much an underrated heathland course
AussieKB
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Always loved it and also Woodbridge....
Arthur Wedge
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Yeah that’s also a very good course - and then add Aldeburgh and you have a nice little Suffolk trip
AussieKB
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True....played Suffolk Open at Aldeburgh back in the late 80's or early 90's.....another gem.
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Hosting the national flagship event for a week, they don't just go anywhere for them.
It may be a course to open the shoulder for low handicappers but mid - high should be getting more shots not less
Arthur Wedge
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In what way are they getting less shots ?
do you mean in comparison between the whites and yellows - there is quite a difference between the tees on a number of holes
Playing the blacks and you would get even more shots
The CR for the course seems fair as does the slope rating
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I disagree, the slope should be minimum 120 for the whites.
They should be getting more shots as in compared to their home clubs. Everyone comes in , gets less shots then can't shoot to it when they are mid handicap. Where as we go away from home, get more shots and hit minimum 40 points
Arthur Wedge
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That’s not the experience we had
I get one less shot of the yellows and found that right , same on the whites
It seemed very much a course set up to be played from the blacks , that’s where most of the bunkers were in range from the tee- you can see why it’s about the standard slope
If the fairways were a bit narrower at the standard landing areas that would prob strengthen it , hitting the gorse you need to be a fair bit off line
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On 4 you have a narrow window to drive through otherwise it's gorse either side
Wind is a huge factor aswell
12 and 13 are tight
All courses are designed to play off the tips. Unfortunately we are making up slopes for the other tees
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Arthur Wedge
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Not sure that’s the case
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We will agree to disagree on this
However what I would say is you (as a good golfer) I'd say (correct me if it's not the case) you play your home course... And then everywhere else you play in the main is outstanding course? Or top level .. £70 plus kinda quality
Where as I play my course and then we talking £50 and below fees. Then you see those courses rated higher with the greens not as punishing as ours do you get why I questioned slope? Because I'm sure you will agree the greens are tough
Arthur Wedge
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I play a mixture of courses through the year in societies , opens , club matches etc
Some are top 100 and some are the same level of standard
Ours is rated pretty fairer on the slope but loses out on the CR because of the length
There aren’t that many that I visit that I find massively wrong in regards their rating
The greens at Ingreourne were tough if you are the wrong side of the hole , certainly quick and true but a good putter would enjoy them
rulefan
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Are you saying they have not been formally rated?
Is the club just inventing a Bogey Rating?
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You don't get much for £70 these days!
I think estimating slope indices is a bit like guessing air temperature. You may have a "feeling" and be confident in it, but until you've seen the rating sheets, (or the thermometer) it's hard to be absolutely certain.
If you get an opportunity to attend a Course Raters Session (usually online) it is quite an eye opener. Far less "finger in the air" than much of this thread implies... (in places)
You don't get much for £70 these days!
I think estimating slope indices is a bit like guessing air temperature. You may have a "feeling" and be confident in it, but until you've seen the rating sheets, (or the thermometer) it's hard to be absolutely certain.
If you get an opportunity to attend a Course Raters Session (usually online) it is quite an eye opener. Far less "finger in the air" than much of this thread implies... (in places)
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No I'm saying bogey rating is a made up figure that really has no place in the world. Course rating is far more important.
For example, top meadow you go offline as a bogey golfer you either find another fairway or at worst under a tree which you play out from. Go off line at ingrebourne your ball is lost. Which costs the bogey golfer more? That's why for me the slope is wrong
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Another feature that if the wind is up it's brutal and it's hardly ever calm
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