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[Mudball]

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[Doon frae Troon]

Nor do I! That's not gambling though! It's a demonstration of your confidence (or lack thereof) in what you post!

But my point has been made! Even you don't believe that what you post will happen will happen!

Really, So why are you enticing me to make a bet with you.

I think it might rain this afternoon,
Bet you £10 it does not.

Checked through the forum rules and it does say that I am allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Foxholer]

...
I think it might rain this afternoon,
Bet you £10 it does not.
...

Now that WOULD be gambling! Actually that would be a 'sure to lose' one too!

It wasn't 'enticement' btw. It was a 'money where your mouth is (fingers are)' reply!

 

[bobmac]

Really, So why are you enticing me to make a bet with you.

I think it might rain this afternoon,
Bet you £10 it does not.

Checked through the forum rules and it does say that I am allowed to have an opinion.

If you want to make your point more forceful(ly), (and who wouldn't (unless your not confident about the subject(s))), you should use more of these !!!!!! !

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

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Btw. I don't seem to have received a reply about my proposed wager about him still being PM at Christmas! Or have you simply donated the tenner to H4H directly?

Jeremy Hunt seems intend on grabbing quite a bit of the limelight whenever he can - most recently yesterday in the HoC when questioning Hancock on current and ongoing testing policy for care homes.

But Johnson and his acolytes are shameless...and so Johnson - egged on by Cummings - will hang around like...[complete with what is most appropriate]

 

[SocketRocket]

Ultimately, it's BoJo's! As per the sign on Pres. Truman's desk!
And it seems (at least to me) to have been a 'policy' decision - so political.
Oh, and the NHS is overseen/controlled by Government through Department of Health and Social Care - run by Matt Hancock.

That's stretching it somewhat by saying the buck stops with him. In that case every decision made throughout the political machinery is his personal responsibility.

 

[Mudball]

What is DomCom's real job other than being BoJo's man.. It is worrying when the the MoD is being threathend by DomCom... I am sure BoJo Brigade can defend this one too.. where do u draw the line?

assuming this is real >>

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280589864589721603

 

[Mudball]

That's stretching it somewhat by saying the buck stops with him. In that case every decision made throughout the political machinery is his personal responsibility.

Indeed.. gone are the days of taking responsibility, morals and values.. Welcome to the new normal.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That's stretching it somewhat by saying the buck stops with him. In that case every decision made throughout the political machinery is his personal responsibility.

Yes, exactly that, he may not make every decision, but as Leader he has ultimate responsibility for those decisions.
He appoints the MP’s to his Government Cabinet positions and they are responsible for their areas.
If those areas fail he can remove those people, just like when they succeed he can take credit.

 

[SocketRocket]

Indeed.. gone are the days of taking responsibility, morals and values.. Welcome to the new normal.

So someone in the NHS makes a bad decision then we should blame Boris for it and the people that made the decision get a free pass. Come on, how can anyone be held personally responsible for all decisions made by the complete state system. Truman didnt and neither could anyone else and it's not what he meant anyhow, he as the head of Government took responsibility for decisions made by government. If a Surgeon decided to give cancer breast surgery to women that didnt have cancer should we personally blame Boris ?

 

[drdel]

That's stretching it somewhat by saying the buck stops with him. In that case every decision made throughout the political machinery is his personal responsibility.

Dissenters will always get into stretching things to absurdity. Actually since it is the Queen who invites/requests the ballot winners to form a Government and select a PM and Cabinet it's obvious the 'buck' stops with her!

 

[Foxholer]

That's stretching it somewhat by saying the buck stops with him. In that case every decision made throughout the political machinery is his personal responsibility.

Twaddle!
But certainly the overall responsibility for decisions/actions is his - notwithstanding the slight clouding by the UK concept of 'Cabinet responsibility' that differs somewhat from the US political hierarchy/responsibilities.
Where else would 'the buck' (aka responsibility!) get passed to?

 

[Foxholer]

... Truman didnt and neither could anyone else and it's not what he meant anyhow, he as the head of Government took responsibility for decisions made by government....

You've just written/made/agreed the compelling argument of why you original reply was twaddle!

 

[SocketRocket]

Twaddle!
But certainly the overall responsibility for decisions/actions is his - notwithstanding the slight clouding by the UK concept of 'Cabinet responsibility' that differs somewhat from the US political hierarchy/responsibilities.
Where else would 'the buck' (aka responsibility!) get passed to?

As mentioned 'The Queen' but the kind of logic you're suggesting is utter 'Twaddle'

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Dissenters will always get into stretching things to absurdity. Actually since it is the Queen who invites/requests the ballot winners to form a Government and select a PM and Cabinet it's obvious the 'buck' stops with her!

Nothing to do with dissenters, it’s the same for any Political Leader regardless of Party or Country etc.

 

[Foxholer]

As mentioned 'The Queen' but the kind of logic you're suggesting is utter 'Twaddle'

A few hundred years ago, maybe, but not these days! The monarch 'reigns' but doesn't 'rule' these days!

 

[SocketRocket]

A few hundred years ago, maybe, but not these days! The monarch 'reigns' but doesn't 'rule' these days!

Yes, it's as silly as personally Blaming Boris for every decision made in the State system, as I said 'Twaddle'

 

[bobmac]

Dissenters will always get into stretching things to absurdity. Actually since it is the Queen who invites/requests the ballot winners to form a Government and select a PM and Cabinet it's obvious the 'buck' stops with her!

Genesis 1:1

 

[Foxholer]

Dissenters will always get into stretching things to absurdity. Actually since it is the Queen who invites/requests the ballot winners to form a Government and select a PM and Cabinet it's obvious the 'buck' stops with her!

Ceremonially maybe - and I doubt even there. In practice, she is compelled to follow procedure (has no choice) therefore 'the buck' never gets to her - except for a few very specific procedural tasks/situations!

 

[Foxholer]

Yes, it's as silly as personally Blaming Boris for every decision made in the State system, as I said 'Twaddle'

Yes, it would indeed be silly to do so! However, the only poster who has suggested that is you!