Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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Can she go into self-isolation for about the next 10 years? ;)

Why would she do that when she's been on the ball right from the off? She shut the schools ahead of the rest of Britain, she was more forceful and left us with no doubt what we could and couldn't do in the current "lockdown" unlike the mixed messages from Boris.
 

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coming back from a walk with the dog the other day, there is a narrow suspension bridge across the river, someon was walking over it when i arrived at the entrance to to it so waited. they crossed the bridge so on i went got half way across. when from the other side a man and woman came on. its a narrow brdge and wide enough for 2 people to pass each other with maybe a couple of feet gap between, so no chance of the correct social distance. Rupert on a lead, other dog not, not even a collar. asked them why they didn't wait for social distancing... told to F off, by both they could do as they liked. not only that but their dog started on Rupert, they just wandered off, called back to them to get their dog and another torrent of abuse.....:rolleyes:... wankers
You should have stopped on the bridge and went into a fit of coughing ?
 

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Meanwhile Mrs Hogie received a 'You are assessed to be a Highly Vulnerable Person' letter. This worried her massively last night as she doesn't consider that she is - she is a Breast Cancer specialist in the BC Now Helpline - and is 4 years out of chemo for BC. But that didn't stop her worrying terribly. Her main worry was that there was something in her record that she wasn't aware of.

However she has checked with her specialist nurse (her old boss) yesterday and her current boss this morning, and it seems that there has been a very broad - 'catch-all/miss no-one' approach to sending out the letter - as a result many folks would have got a letter from the NHS even though they may not actually be highly vulnerable at all. Just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
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My understanding is that anyone who has had chemo is considered 'highly vulnerable' as their immune system is likely to be very weak. The wife of one of the guys at my work is 'group isolating' with fellow leukemia survivors in that category.
 

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I'm sure she's fit and qualified in her field of medicine.
If you had a problem with your feet, would you ask a podiatrist or a gynaecologist for advice?
Chief medical officer was appointed way before this outbreak. She'll be getting info from all sorts of experts. She might not be a virology expert but has a base knowledge of the subject that exceeds you or I by orders of magnitude.
You will not get a chief medical officer who is an expert in every medical field. Her day-to-day job is vastly different to what she's doing now.
Personally think the way the Scottish Government has handled this has been exemplary, and I'm no fan of the Scottish government. Can't really think why you'd be bothered about her background
 

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I'm sure she's fit and qualified in her field of medicine.
If you had a problem with your feet, would you ask a podiatrist or a gynaecologist for advice?
There you go Crawford, all those problems with your feet were because you were seeing a Gynaecologist and not a podiatrist:LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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Interesting question I ask myself
Are Tesco and other supermarkets testing staff.
Tesco because I shopped there yesterday and today a delivery van turned up looking for a house they couldn’t find.
They are certainly asking shoppers to keep the 2m rule but today 2 turned up in the van,and yesterday some staff we’re working together only a ft or 2 apart.
 

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Interesting question I ask myself
Are Tesco and other supermarkets testing staff.
Tesco because I shopped there yesterday and today a delivery van turned up looking for a house they couldn’t find.
They are certainly asking shoppers to keep the 2m rule but today 2 turned up in the van,and yesterday some staff we’re working together only a ft or 2 apart.

Same here with the delivery van.
I think they are training staff.
 

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Just had another conference call, that's us officially furloughed (spelling) for at least a month.
It sucks, I guess the only silver lining is I'll be getting paid a reasonable wage for sitting on my @rse all month.
 

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I'm not sure why we are listening to Dr. Calderwood who is a obstetrician and gynaecologist
She may have qualified as, and been, an obstetrician and gynaecologist. But, for a long time now, she has been an medical administrator. And that's why she should be listened to. She will, no doubt, have advisers with specialist knowledge of this particular area - or any other area under her administration.

Same applies in a Golf Club. As overall head of administration, the Chief Executive Officer doesn't necessarily, but may, come from a golfing background! It's his/her administration/vision/execution that is the primary attribute of that role!
 

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Interesting question I ask myself
Are Tesco and other supermarkets testing staff.
Tesco because I shopped there yesterday and today a delivery van turned up looking for a house they couldn’t find.
They are certainly asking shoppers to keep the 2m rule but today 2 turned up in the van,and yesterday some staff we’re working together only a ft or 2 apart.

Wait around a bit, as someone will be along 'advising ' this is folk just doing their best for you and beyond criticism...
 

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Chief medical officer was appointed way before this outbreak. She'll be getting info from all sorts of experts. She might not be a virology expert but has a base knowledge of the subject that exceeds you or I by orders of magnitude.
You will not get a chief medical officer who is an expert in every medical field. Her day-to-day job is vastly different to what she's doing now.
Personally think the way the Scottish Government has handled this has been exemplary, and I'm no fan of the Scottish government. Can't really think why you'd be bothered about her background

I'm well aware and agree with everything you say.
But what if the experts disagree?
She has to decide what's best.
If someone tells me to stay indoors for 3 months, I want to make sure it's the best advice.


She will, no doubt, have advisers with specialist knowledge of this particular area - or any other area under her administration.

Is this something you think I don't know?
 

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I'm well aware and agree with everything you say.
But what if the experts disagree?
She has to decide what's best.
If someone tells me to stay indoors for 3 months, I want to make sure it's the best advice.

Can experts disagree on medical facts. Probably not
and if she's giving a brief to the FM on other doctors opinions she'll likely give both
if she's giving the public a brief its probably one based based facts
if she's briefing the public based only on other doctors opinions, well that would be bad.... is that what she's done?
 

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Can experts disagree on medical facts. Probably not
and if she's giving a brief to the FM on other doctors opinions she'll likely give both
if she's giving the public a brief its probably one based based facts
if she's briefing the public based only on other doctors opinions, well that would be bad.... is that what she's done?

This isn't just about medical facts, the question is how to stop people dying from the virus and to not overload the NHS.
 

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coming back from a walk with the dog the other day, there is a narrow suspension bridge across the river, someon was walking over it when i arrived at the entrance to to it so waited. they crossed the bridge so on i went got half way across. when from the other side a man and woman came on. its a narrow brdge and wide enough for 2 people to pass each other with maybe a couple of feet gap between, so no chance of the correct social distance. Rupert on a lead, other dog not, not even a collar. asked them why they didn't wait for social distancing... told to F off, by both they could do as they liked. not only that but their dog started on Rupert, they just wandered off, called back to them to get their dog and another torrent of abuse.....:rolleyes:... wankers
And therein lies the problem with trying to let people do the right thing. We are in unprecedented times which people just do not get. They believe they can do what they want, and stuff the rest. The reaction you got is typical of these arrogant people. Interestingly, I think the more people know they're wrong, the more aggressive they get in their response to justify what they are doing.
I found the same when I challenge people who park in disabled spaces without badges. They try to justify why they've done it and then get more abusive as they know they're in the wrong and what they are doing is basically, morally, indefensible. They just don't like people telling them.
 

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I'm well aware and agree with everything you say.
But what if the experts disagree?
She has to decide what's best.
If someone tells me to stay indoors for 3 months, I want to make sure it's the best advice.
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If the experts disagree then she has no chance.
Which expert would you listen to? The one that told you to sit tight for 3 months, or the one that tells you you can go out?

We are in unprecedented times. We will only know what the correct choice was after the fact. Right now we can only mitigate the risk to overloading the NHS, and they seem to be doing that. Hopefully it lasts.
 

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With most traffic off the streets maybe all who would normally take the train, bus or tube into work should be allowed to drive in - and park close to their hospital without congestion or emissions charge or on-street parking charges/restrictions. NHS workers could be given a pass that would allow them to do so. Police or traffic wardens could manage traffic.

Of course I can see issues with such a scheme but just a thought to keep workers out of congested places such as a tube train.

Congestion and emissions charges for front line workers was lifted last week as was on site parking charges.
 
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