Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[clubchamp98]

Positive news..

http://redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=6866375&u=https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/mar/ucl-uclh-and-formula-one-develop-life-saving-breathing-aids-nhs

This shows what can be done if you take all the red tape crap out of the way.
You need checks and balances but we overdo it mostly.

 

[Jacko_G]

Ok, we disagree but the point is we will have this threat for as long as we flaunt the rules.

P.s
I'm not sure why we are listening to Dr. Calderwood who is a obstetrician and gynaecologist

Why would I not listen to Scotlands Chief Medical Officer? Do you think she just makes decisions on her own and decides they are gospel?

Do you think she doesn't have advisors and doesn't link in with advice from the government and other health officials the world over?

Bit like saying why do we listen to professional golfers who turned pro off of 4 when you get guys playing off of+4!

 

[BrianM]

Yes a strange one that.
Key workers may use bikes for work?
It maybe that you can still go out on your bike.
So logically shoe shops should be open as you can still go walking.
But where would it end?

You have to check/order online for Halfords, the items will be taken to you at door I believe.

 

[ferenezejohn]

From what I have seen the lockdown seems to be generally well adhered to, but you will always get the occasional idiot.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We were on a Zoom audio/video chat with Mrs Hogie's nursing buddles in London and US - this was her group of close friends when they all did their training 40yrs ago and they kept in very close touch through all that time, it was great as we usually see them around now - isn't technology great

One couple and their daughter are all in front-line. She is a very experienced and very senior ICU Nurse Practitioner/Lecturer and is assigned to the Nightingale Hospital by City Airport to train nurses in ventilation and ICU support to the Covid-19 patients - she will be brilliant - very calm and very experienced. He is a senior paramedic and is on the front line ambulance service in central London. Their daughter is working in UCH London on the CV-19 wards - she says it's awful. Basically if you end up need ventilation then your odds are not good...

Meanwhile Mrs Hogie received a 'You are assessed to be a Highly Vulnerable Person' letter. This worried her massively last night as she doesn't consider that she is - she is a Breast Cancer specialist in the BC Now Helpline - and is 4 years out of chemo for BC. But that didn't stop her worrying terribly. Her main worry was that there was something in her record that she wasn't aware of.

However she has checked with her specialist nurse (her old boss) yesterday and her current boss this morning, and it seems that there has been a very broad - 'catch-all/miss no-one' approach to sending out the letter - as a result many folks would have got a letter from the NHS even though they may not actually be highly vulnerable at all. Just as vulnerable as the rest of us.

So if you know anyone who has got such a letter and didn't expect one - please reassure them that the NHS has take such a broad-brush approach and get them to try and speak to their specialist team if they are worried - as they will be. It might not be easy to get through to their specialist contact point form their treatment. If they can't there may well be a charity helpline that will know and will be able to help with their concerns.

Take care everyone - it's not good.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

With most traffic off the streets maybe all who would normally take the train, bus or tube into work should be allowed to drive in - and park close to their hospital without congestion or emissions charge or on-street parking charges/restrictions. NHS workers could be given a pass that would allow them to do so. Police or traffic wardens could manage traffic.

Of course I can see issues with such a scheme but just a thought to keep workers out of congested places such as a tube train.

 

[clubchamp98]

With most traffic off the streets maybe all who would normally take the train, bus or tube into work should be allowed to drive in - and park close to their hospital without congestion or emissions charge or on-street parking charges/restrictions. NHS workers could be given a pass that would allow them to do so. Police or traffic wardens could manage traffic.

Of course I can see issues with such a scheme but just a thought to keep workers out of congested places such as a tube train.

All the hospital car parks must be empty.
Just put the barriers up and let staff park there.
Car park firms make enough money from the ill.
It’s time for them to help out a little, like everyone else.

 

[Ross61]

Why are bike shops open?????????? Has BJ got shares in Halfords?

Apparently there is a lot of health workers buying bikes to get to work rather than travel on crowded public transport.

 

[MegaSteve]

With most traffic off the streets maybe all who would normally take the train, bus or tube into work should be allowed to drive in - and park close to their hospital without congestion or emissions charge or on-street parking charges/restrictions. NHS workers could be given a pass that would allow them to do so. Police or traffic wardens could manage traffic.

Of course I can see issues with such a scheme but just a thought to keep workers out of congested places such as a tube train.

Congestion and emission charges have been suspended in London...

 

[funkycoldmedina]

How about a question/dilemma/fake news?

Germany policy is looking to test Germans widely for antibodies and issue certificates to those who are now immune and release them to work - it obviously raises the question - what about those who have not been infected but are still vulnerable?

UK Government strategy is also to crank up antibody testing and social distancing to flatten the curve of infections so the NHS can cope.
Within a window of about 12 months there is no cure or vaccine.
About 20% of UK are aged 65+ so in the more vulnerable group there's about 12mill people.
If 'flattening' the curve just delays the period before everyone has been infected and developed antibodies then these 12m will eventually catch the virus.

Now for the unanswered question: if the death rate among those infected is currently running around 5% ish; (600,000 people - about the same as the annual UK deaths).
What are your plans? - sleep well !!!

(clearly in the 600K there will be many who would have died of normal/natural causes so the total would not be 1.2m - and I may have twisted the numerical logic a bit - phew)

That's not strictly the case. Once you begin to get immunity in the community the immune act as fire breaks meaning the virus can't multiply and then be passed on by them. This is essentially what we have with flu and why everyone doesn't go down with it and why it doesn't fly around the vulnerable. As this begins increase the rate of infection will decrease and we'll be closer to a vaccine(s)

 

[patricks148]

coming back from a walk with the dog the other day, there is a narrow suspension bridge across the river, someon was walking over it when i arrived at the entrance to to it so waited. they crossed the bridge so on i went got half way across. when from the other side a man and woman came on. its a narrow brdge and wide enough for 2 people to pass each other with maybe a couple of feet gap between, so no chance of the correct social distance. Rupert on a lead, other dog not, not even a collar. asked them why they didn't wait for social distancing... told to F off, by both they could do as they liked. not only that but their dog started on Rupert, they just wandered off, called back to them to get their dog and another torrent of abuse........ wankers

 

[pendodave]

With most traffic off the streets maybe all who would normally take the train, bus or tube into work should be allowed to drive in - and park close to their hospital without congestion or emissions charge or on-street parking charges/restrictions. NHS workers could be given a pass that would allow them to do so. Police or traffic wardens could manage traffic.

Of course I can see issues with such a scheme but just a thought to keep workers out of congested places such as a tube train.

I'm imagining many of them in London and other large metropoli don't actually own cars. Most of the young people I know in London are in this situation.

 

[bobmac]

Why would I not listen to Scotlands Chief Medical Officer? Do you think she just makes decisions on her own and decides they are gospel?

Do you think she doesn't have advisors and doesn't link in with advice from the government and other health officials the world over?

Bit like saying why do we listen to professional golfers who turned pro off of 4 when you get guys playing off of+4!

I'd rather listen to the expert than hear someone elses opinion on what the expert said.
And your golf analogy ........a pro who was off 4 spent 3 years learning to teach golf. The guy off +4 may not have a clue how to teach.

 

[hovis]

Not saying the Chinese aren't hiding but look at Germany....60k+ cases and just over 500 deaths......

forget about the cases as Germany are testing 500k a week and we are 70k a week. so there numbers of infected is always going to be high. germany are bracing for impact too "according to the media"
i just find it hard to believe that a country like China with serious over population issues only had 3k deaths when the lockdowwn come seemingly late on

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nicola making a statement at 2.30pm...….I think Scotland will be going into serious lockdown mode now.
Too many idiots not conforming. Patricks post gives a good example.

 

[Rooter]

Not saying the Chinese aren't hiding but look at Germany....60k+ cases and just over 500 deaths......

I read that in Germany, if the patient that has died had an underlying health condition, that is what is being logged as the cause of death, not COVID-19. So you could argue their figures are bullshit.

 

[Imurg]

I read that in Germany, if the patient that has died had an underlying health condition, that is what is being logged as the cause of death, not COVID-19. So you could argue their figures are bullshit.

Almost exactly the opposite of how we record deaths here......

 

[Mudball]

Some of the buses are putting up messages thanking the NHS. Saw one go past me, but could not take a pic as not safe. It is a small thing, but i hope it goes a long way..

 

[Pathetic Shark]

Nicola making a statement at 2.30pm...….I think Scotland will be going into serious lockdown mode now.
Too many idiots not conforming. Patricks post gives a good example.

Can she go into self-isolation for about the next 10 years?

 

[Jacko_G]

I'd rather listen to the expert than hear someone elses opinion on what the expert said.
And your golf analogy ........a pro who was off 4 spent 3 years learning to teach golf. The guy off +4 may not have a clue how to teach.

Well i guess Scotland appointed an unfit, unqualified person.

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