Cook and Trott Out

HomerJSimpson said:
Still say we'll get found out by NZ and Australia and the ECB will face some tricky questions on their selection processes. It is still an old boys and school tie brigade and until someone is allowed to come in with carte blanche and make wholesale changes to the way the game is run we'll still going to have these issues
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You can take the ECB out of the MCC etc, etc :blah:
 
Piece said:
As a captain he is poor. He is reactive rather than proactive. Negative tactics for the most part and doesn't use his bowlers well. No spark, no initiative. That, to me, is death by Cook stuff.

He hasn't got going for a while with bat, apart from the recent ton in the Windies. Currently, he's a bit easy to get out. Pitch it up, outside off, get him driving and bingo...caught behind. When he was piling on the runs he was moving his feet. Hope he gets back to where he was a few years back.
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It'll be interesting to see if McCullum is as innovative with his tactics as he was in the World Cup. Cos it'll be in stark contrast to Cook!
 
I'm surprised no one has picked up on the Broad story. He missed a sponsors event for the ECB as he was hung over following a night out. He is claiming a migraine but it looks iffy and he has apologised. If Andrew Strauss wants to set down a marker for his regime he should suspend him for the first Test. Broad is not 18 any more and should know better particularly after the week the ECB have had. Disappointing.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I'm surprised no one has picked up on the Broad story. He missed a sponsors event for the ECB as he was hung over following a night out. He is claiming a migraine but it looks iffy and he has apologised. If Andrew Strauss wants to set down a marker for his regime he should suspend him for the first Test. Broad is not 18 any more and should know better particularly after the week the ECB have had. Disappointing.
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inside or outside, Broad very very clearly on the inside

Sounds like the ICC are discussing turning back some of the ODI fielding rules for the better
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I'm surprised no one has picked up on the Broad story. He missed a sponsors event for the ECB as he was hung over following a night out. He is claiming a migraine but it looks iffy and he has apologised. If Andrew Strauss wants to set down a marker for his regime he should suspend him for the first Test. Broad is not 18 any more and should know better particularly after the week the ECB have had. Disappointing.
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Thought it was brought up a page or so back

I'm sure he would have been spoken too and warned and not sure the need to suspend him
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Thought it was brought up a page or so back

I'm sure he would have been spoken too and warned and not sure the need to suspend him
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I posted a link to the original story a couple of days ago. Since then Flintoff has been on Twitter and denied any involvement in the night out and said he no longer drinks. I'm not Broad' s biggest fan but it does call into question how accurate the rest of the story is.

Broad's migraine story might be true as I often have a bad headache if I've been out drinking until 7am.
 
While clearly not on a KP scale there has to be transparency and the ECB need to be seen to be taking action with Broad. It sounds iffy at best (of course it could be true but no smoke and all that) and if they want to move on from the KP shadow they need to be taking a firm and consistent line with any misbehaviour on and off the field
 
so Hales went all the way to the IPL to carry the drinks lol

seems Brendon McCullum left earlier than expected to get to England before the test series starts next week too
 
England have spoken to Gillespe about becoming the coach

Also Cook has said he had nothing to do with the KP decision
 
Liverpoolphil said:
England have spoken to Gillespe about becoming the coach

Also Cook has said he had nothing to do with the KP decision
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personally don't want an Aussie in charge for the ashes but can see it happening.

Peas for Cook. He said he didn't give an ultimatum. In fact he said he can deny that. If he didn't speak to his pals abut the decision is be very surprised. He's captain after all.
 
Papas1982 said:
personally don't want an Aussie in charge for the ashes but can see it happening.

Peas for Cook. He said he didn't give an ultimatum. In fact he said he can deny that. If he didn't speak to his pals abut the decision is be very surprised. He's captain after all.
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I also don't want to see an Aussie in charge - would prefer to see Kirsten or even Donald

Cook said he left the managing decisions to the management

And he is spot on - it's time to move on now and focus on the game ahead
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I also don't want to see an Aussie in charge - would prefer to see Kirsten or even Donald

Cook said he left the managing decisions to the management

And he is spot on - it's time to move on now and focus on the game ahead
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I agree time to move on. Don't believe for a second he wasn't spoken to though. Cricket has and will remain a old boys club and he's firmly part of that.

He he probaby wouldn't of needed to to make demands. But he did t say he had no input. In fact avoid answering as such.
 
fundy said:
Lying through his teeth, calling his boss Straussy, yep no old boys network going on lol.

youre right, time to focus on the cricket, come on you black caps :)
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Really Steve ?

I guess the complaints about the old boys network were loud and clear when the team were winning ashes and getting to number 1 in the world
 
Papas1982 said:
I agree time to move on. Don't believe for a second he wasn't spoken to though. Cricket has and will remain a old boys club and he's firmly part of that.

He he probaby wouldn't of needed to to make demands. But he did t say he had no input. In fact avoid answering as such.
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I believe he wanted to focus on the upcoming test and the current squad instead of going over and over and over about a person who will take no part in it.

All this old boy network stuff is either nonsense and people only bring it up when things don't go well or they were just as vocal when England were winning regualry
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Really Steve ?

I guess the complaints about the old boys network were loud and clear when the team were winning ashes and getting to number 1 in the world
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been complaining about it for about 15 years if im honest, and its got far far worse the last few years than its ever been

as for who i cheer for, bets come before everything and Im not backing England at the prices lol (albeit if Lords is as green come match time as the pictures shown it could be a shootout (and then ill be cheering any result bar the draw)
 
fundy said:
been complaining about it for about 15 years if im honest, and its got far far worse the last few years than its ever been

as for who i cheer for, bets come before everything and Im not backing England at the prices lol (albeit if Lords is as green come match time as the pictures shown it could be a shootout (and then ill be cheering any result bar the draw)
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So not being an England cricket fan then the old boys network makes no difference then

I don't really care what goes on behind the scenes - really can't see the issue right now nor in the last 10 years
 
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