louise_a
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I agree with FD out of 50 ladies with active handicaps at our club only 8 are off 36, so that's 4%
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I agree with FD out of 50 ladies with active handicaps at our club only 8 are off 36, so that's 4%
FairwayDodger
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jim8flog
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Same comment as above. When handicap reviews are done on a monthly basis committees should be applying increase in line with Congu manual.
Handicap committees have to work within Congu guidelines one of which is
The
Handicap Committee would be incorrect in thinking that having too low a handicap only
affects the individual. In fact not acting on recommendations leaving players with handicaps that
are too low could well affect every other handicap in the club, due to the potential impact on the
Competition Scratch Score
(CSS). This is particularly relevant in Qualifying Competitions with
small field sizes.
jim8flog
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One of the things I like is that quite a few players will now be taken out of the CSS calculation.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Misremebered? It was a graph that showed a huge upsweep from 30+, very hard to misremeber, and I "misremebered" the men's figure which showed pretty much the graph above from the USA, so I guess my mis-memory is just fine thanks.
And no I can;t find the details as it was presented by the SGU, and having searched online it doesn't appear like it's ever been posted.
So, in the context of this topic, why would I be misrepresenting them? I've just checked a couple of other local clubs (you can filter by handicap order on HDID) and they all show the same propensity to a large chunk of high handicaps in the ladies section with hardly any single digits on show.
http://www.howdidido.com/Directory/HandicapList/760
http://www.howdidido.com/Directory/HandicapList/913
http://www.howdidido.com/Directory/HandicapList/2051
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
That's 16%but your point stands.
His point kinda confirms what I'm saying. I'd be wiling to bet there's not 16% below 10 h'cap.
FairwayDodger
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Oh you swapping to 30+ now, rather than your original absurd 36+ ?
Yeah, single digit players are in the minority but that's not what I've taken exception to.
I can't view HDID so not much point linking to those, frustrating as I'll be surprised if they back up the majority 36+ claim.
Sadly I can't find any UK figures but here's USGA stats
http://www.usga.org/content/usga/ho...omens-handicap-index-statistics-ead8b6a5.html
84% are less than 36.
FairwayDodger
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All this proves is you have no grasp of arithmetic.
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I have a sneaky opinion that Hughjars is talking about the most common handicap is 36+ , as when he talks about the graphs/charts that he saw for men and ladies and describes it, it is the impression I got. (I know he said 'majority' but his description is saying most common rather than majority). Therefore you are both right.
:rofl:According to your list/chart list for usa, this is 16% or 1 in 6 ladies have a handicap of 36 + according to your list/chart you posted, which is the most common handicap on the list, no other handicap comes close to that.
HughJars
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30+ yes because that's where the upsweep starts from a low level and then the largest percentage of women can't get below 36. Convenient that the evidence is there and you "Can't view it" though.
And then you link to a set of stats that totally backs up my point, a huge uptick at 36+.
I've no idea why you're seeing your erse here, I was simply stating a fact, and all three sets of data shown here including those you "Can't view" back it up.
HughJars
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A sixth of his lady members play off the maximum handicap, it proves exactly what I was saying.
User20205
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No it wasn't ^^ 16% doesn't look like a majority to me.
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FairwayDodger
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Unbelievable! What you posted was utter BS, that the majority of female golfers have 36+ handicaps. The majority is more than half. You'll struggle to find a single club in the country where that applies never mind averaging that across the whole country.
And don't be snide about viewing HDID - only people who are members of clubs that use it can get access.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
good een :blah:
User20205
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a rudimentary look at my club, which is fairly typical 21% 36+, 2 % 5 and lower. the rest somewhere in between.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And at mine - 95 Ladies (inc gurls)
14 ladies are 36; 9 (all gurls I think) are 36+ so 23 out of 95 (24%) or 14 out of 86 (16%)
I note that we have a very active Ladies Academy that feeds ladies into Club Membership and they will inevitably mostly have a handicap of 36 to start with.
3 SF ladies out of the 96 - doesn't feel that many but may be typical - I don't know
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User20205
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I have a sneaky opinion that Hughjars is talking about the most common handicap is 36+ , as when he talks about the graphs/charts that he saw for men and ladies and describes it, it is the impression I got. (I know he said 'majority' but his description is saying most common rather than majority). Therefore you are both right.
According to your list/chart list for usa, this is 16% or 1 in 6 ladies have a handicap of 36 + according to your list/chart you posted, which is the most common handicap on the list, no other handicap comes close to that.
but he is incorrect there also. on the USGA info 36-40.4 15.57%, 20-23.9 15.8% . the bandwidth of handicaps is smaller 20.23.9 also.
we need Ethan with his statistical skills to prove this one way or another !!
Old Skier
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Why do people quote states from a site that gathers less than a 1/3 of results.
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harpo_72
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My club has started implementing the 9 hole competitions. I have not had time to play yet. I wonder if they will select the 9 holes that offer up the greater challenge....
AmandaJR
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It has to be a measured 9 holes with a separate SSS.
