Tin Soldier
Newbie
Can you ask your partner who is on a similar line as yourself, to putt out, so as to give you a better read of your crucial putt, even though your opponents have conceded it, in a fourball matchplay competition?
Conceded putt not accepted?
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Alex1975
Guest
Yep but if he misses it would count.
rickg
Money List Winner
Nope..
2-4/6 Putting Out After Concession of Stroke
Rule 2-4 does not cover the question of whether a player may putt out after his next stroke has been conceded. A player incurs no penalty for holing out in such circumstances. However, if the act would be of assistance to a partner in a four-ball or best-ball match, the partner is, in equity (Rule 1-4), disqualified for the hole.
Sorry Alex..
2-4/6 Putting Out After Concession of Stroke
Rule 2-4 does not cover the question of whether a player may putt out after his next stroke has been conceded. A player incurs no penalty for holing out in such circumstances. However, if the act would be of assistance to a partner in a four-ball or best-ball match, the partner is, in equity (Rule 1-4), disqualified for the hole.
Sorry Alex..
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Colin L
Tour Winner
Well no, Alex. You cannot decline a concession and as soon as the putt has been conceded it is deemed to have been holed with the next stroke. The point of the concession was of course to prevent the Tin Soldier's partner helping with the line, so as said above, to putt would be out of order and would be penalised.
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Foxholer
Blackballed
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Once conceded, the concession cannot be withdrawn either
Kellfire
Blackballed
I had a concession taken back last year in a tab it's match and it was the one day I didn't take my rules book out and wasn't 100% sure. 
Colin L
Tour Winner
I had a concession taken back last year in a tab it's match and it was the one day I didn't take my rules book out and wasn't 100% sure.
If it was an important match, it would have been worth making a claim.
Now, I know the rules pretty well, but, erm, what is a 'tab it's match'
cliveb
Head Pro
That reminds me of something that happened about a year ago. My wife & I were playing in a mixed greensomes. We were on a fairly steeply sloping green. She putted and the ball briefly stopped about 2 inches short of the hole. At it did so, one of our opponents said "thats ok". But as he said this, the ball rolled back down the slope and ended up about 3 feet short of the hole, so he immediately said "oh no, it's not" - clearly withdrawing his concession. Was he entitled to do that, given that the concession and withdrawal almost happened in the same breath?
rulefan
Tour Winner
Once uttered, that's it.
Colin L
Tour Winner
In the situation described, that may not be correct. If the ball moved again as quickly after it apparently stopped it could be that it was not at rest. In which case, there was no concession since a concession can only be made for the next stroke if the ball is at rest. The critical question, which we can't answer as we did not see the event, is whether the ball came to rest and then moved or was not at rest and continued to move.
cliveb
Head Pro
Well, the ball must have been at rest for some small period of time, as it went up the hill and then came back down. From my memory of the incident, I'd say it was probably stationary for about half a second. Whether the utterance of "that's ok" happened during that half a second is debatable.
As it happens, I'm a fairly laid-back kind of guy and was happy to accept that there was no concession. Fortunately I did hole the next putt, so no damage was done. (And funnily enough, having seen what had happened to my wife's putt, our lady opponent then proceeded to do exactly the same thing - stick it to within a few inches, only to see it roll back to where she played it from!)
Colin L
Tour Winner
Well, mathematically, the ball must have been motionless if only for a fraction of a second! It does sound to me as if the rolling back so quickly means that it wasn't at rest. But that is just my interpretation.
bobmac
Major Champion
Are you saying that if my opponent's ball just misses the hole and will come to a stop 6 inches past the hole, I connot concede the following putt until it has stopped?
And if I do concede it while it's 'stopping' then the concession doesn't count?
Colin L
Tour Winner
That's right, Bob. The wording in Rule 2-4 is quite clear:
A player may concede his opponent’s next stroke at any time, provided the opponent’s ball is at rest.
I can't imagine anyone being too bothered in the circumstances you describe, though.
A player may concede his opponent’s next stroke at any time, provided the opponent’s ball is at rest.
I can't imagine anyone being too bothered in the circumstances you describe, though.
bobmac
Major Champion
I should hope not too
rulefan
Tour Winner
Well it was said that 'the ball stopped'.
Everthing that posits that it might not have stopped is speculation, although relevant to the general topic.
If it came back down the same line, the laws of physics / mechanics says it stopped.
Kellfire
Blackballed
A "tab it's" match is my iphone not liking the word rabbits when I typed it with bleary morning vison. 
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
A "tab it's" match is my iphone not liking the word rabbits when I typed it with bleary morning vison.
what's a 'rabbits match' ?
Kellfire
Blackballed
what's a 'rabbits match' ?
Something someone like you doesn't need to worry about with your handicap.
