Clubs still in the Dark Ages

[Doon frae Troon]

I played a KO semi final a couple of years ago against a player I gave myself little chance of beating.
Before the match he asked if I would mind if he kept his phone on silent as he was expecting an important business call.
Nice guy and a good sport so I instantly said yes.
He played his game with one mind on the call that never came, and I won comfortably.


As mentioned above 'golf is about consideration'.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But banning them on the course because you're not the kind of person who uses a mobile is like stopping 4x4's driving on the road in towns because you drive a Toyota Prius.

Don't see anyone here make that the reason for such bans being appropriate. Whereas everyone who accepts bans does so on the grounds that someone else might be distracted or irritated - and that it is the club's decision - and that's really all it's about.

 

[dufferman]

There are plenty of people in this thread who dislike the idea of phones because those people do not use them, and want them banned or like the fact they are banned in the clubhouse.

As I said earlier - does it affect your game? If it doesn't then there aren't many grounds to implement a ban.

 

[MegaSteve]

I HATE mobile 'devices' [they ain't just 'phones anymore]... I no longer golf with my brother in law due to his 'need' of not only carrying a 'device' but actually bloody answering it [mad]... When I retire properly, in a year or two's time, one of the requirements of any club I join will be that they take a VERY dim view of 'communicators' being used in the clubhouse [at the very least]...

I am sure attitudes will change but hopefully not until I've departed... [Rant over] (for now)...

 

[fundy]

I like our clubs approach to them in the clubhouse, basically they are banned but now if one rings rather than people moaning everyone cheers and the "culprit" has to put a quid in the captains charity pot

 

[MadAdey]

There are plenty of people in this thread who dislike the idea of phones because those people do not use them, and want them banned or like the fact they are banned in the clubhouse.As I said earlier - does it affect your game? If it doesn't then there aren't many grounds to implement a ban.

Like I have said previously.... there are people who really do not have a need to be contactable at all times so do not see why other may need to be. It is not possible to get these people to understand why some people feel the need to have a phone on the course. Likewise people who do not have a problem with them will not be swayed to agreeing htat they should be banned. This is one of those threads that will never change peoples minds either way. It is a case of live with it. If you need your phone then make sure it is on silent and out of the way so that people can't see it. If you must use it then leave the clubhouse and go to the carpark.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

by '...not use them' - I read that they did not use a mobile phone full stop. Are there really that many folk here who don't use a mobile phone at all? Yes there are plenty who do not use them on the course or in clubhouse as they are following the rule of the club or just don't want to be distracted or distract or irritate fellow members or players out on the course.

 

[dufferman]

by '...not use them' - I read that they did not use a mobile phone full stop. Are there really that many folk here who don't use a mobile phone at all? Yes there are plenty who do not use them on the course or in clubhouse as they are following the rule of the club or just don't want to be distracted or distract or irritate fellow members or players out on the course.

I would assume that the people who seem to dislike them that much do not use one... certainly not on a daily basis?

 

[Fader]

Can't stand them on the course, prefer them be on silent in the clubhouse and go outside to make/take a call. I have one that I have to use constantly for my job to send and receive my jobs through when on different sites. Constantly have some sort of text message, phone call or email coming through from work, friends or family but I cannot see any need for it on the course. I love escaping from the bloody thing.

 

[duncan mackie]

There are plenty of people in this thread who dislike the idea of phones because those people do not use them, and want them banned ......

there is as little basis for this conclusion as there was the earlier one regarding age.

I believe that you also used the argument about it being appropriate that there is 'choice' - but conveniently miss the corollary to that in this instance; some people may choose to go to a club that doesn't permit the use of mobile 'phones in the clubhouse.

It can't be a question of right or wrong because, as has already been said by a number of people, it's the membership who make the decision.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I would assume that the people who seem to dislike them that much do not use one... certainly not on a daily basis?

Well I dislike mobiles on the course and in the clubhouse and I use my mobile and remote comms devices all the time as I work from home. This means that even if I wanted to, and saw a gap in my diary, I cannot nip off to the club for a few holes during the working week as I am expected to be contactable at any time. The ban on phones on golf course means I can't - and I accept that. So I just don't play 9-5 Mon-Fri. unless I am on leave.

 

[dufferman]

So I just don't play 9-5 Mon-Fri. unless I am on leave.

I'm pretty much expected, certainly by my boss, to be able to be in touch to fix / help fix a problem in my job 24 / 7. Maybe not throughout the night, but certainly weekends, bank holidays etc. Even on holiday in a different country a month back I was on the phone occasionally.

So, what do I do?

 

[Fader]

I'm pretty much expected, certainly by my boss, to be able to be in touch to fix / help fix a problem in my job 24 / 7. Maybe not throughout the night, but certainly weekends, bank holidays etc. Even on holiday in a different country a month back I was on the phone occasionally.

So, what do I do?

Get a job where you can have a life. No job is worth sacrificing personal time such as a holiday to be on the phone to take work calls. I wouldn't do it, I went away for a family wedding back end of June to Italy and didn't bother taking the phone to cut out the chance of a work call, was asked why I wasn't asnwering I simply answered "I was on holiday"

 

[dufferman]

Get a job where you can have a life. No job is worth sacrificing personal time such as a holiday to be on the phone to take work calls. I wouldn't do it, I went away for a family wedding back end of June to Italy and didn't bother taking the phone to cut out the chance of a work call, was asked why I wasn't asnwering I simply answered "I was on holiday"

I feel quite the flipside of that actually - I'm proud that in my place work of I'm called upon as the most knowledgeable and reliable. But anyway, as mentioned 100 times before, each to his own, it looks like we'll have to agree to disagree!

 

[SocketRocket]

I dont have a problem with people using mobile phones, I have one myself, I guess almost everyone does. The problem is the way some people use them and this is what alienates them from places like golf clubs.

I would never make or receive a call in a public place, it is antisocial to disturb others peace and relaxation by talking loudly down a phone, forcing others to listen into what is mostly drivel. It's a simple case of good manners to go somewhere away from others when using them, it's no real hardship either. I can kind-of see the case for someone reading or sending a text message as long as the phone does not play green sleeves or similar.

As so many people these days seem unable to keep anything in their lives private and see no harm in inflicting their personal phone conversations on others these rules have to be made. It would be so better if it was self regulated but good public manners are as rare as 'hens teeth' these days.

 

[6inchcup]

I'm pretty much expected, certainly by my boss, to be able to be in touch to fix / help fix a problem in my job 24 / 7. Maybe not throughout the night, but certainly weekends, bank holidays etc. Even on holiday in a different country a month back I was on the phone occasionally.

So, what do I do?

i used to have a similar boss,until i told him to stick it a started up on my own,got to have some work life balance,i work to live not live to work!!!

 

[PNWokingham]

I like our clubs approach to them in the clubhouse, basically they are banned but now if one rings rather than people moaning everyone cheers and the "culprit" has to put a quid in the captains charity pot

That would save me a lot of money compared to the lake on 8/9!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

As I've said before my mum is ill but I need golf to give me some head space to think. I need the phone to be on and tend to check it once at the 9th which is back at the clubhouse (should I need to go) and then when I get back. If I have a message or text I'll use it in the locker room and deal with it before joining everyone in the 19th. I have it on vibrate so I can go outside and call/text if needed.

I'm not going to compromise on that and everyone I play with is made aware of the situation before we start. No-one has ever complained and all agree family before golf each and every time.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well golf buddy - there is no negative answer to this 'plea for leniency' that would not sound callous or mean - so I won't give one. Because despite some saying 'one rule for all' - that just need not be the case. As we know - consideration for fellow players is the watchword - whichever way that plays. Mum's the word - the only word that really matters.

 

[Smiffy]

So lets take a look at how long it takes to play golf. tee off at 10.00 maybe have to leave home 9:15 to get to the course and get changed ready to play. Usual 4 hour round, so off the course at around 14:00, get changed have a drink and get home sometime after 15:00. What planet is it that you live on that you think that someone in business could be unreachable for over 6 hours in this fast moving age.

Do what I do Adey. Last thing before heading for the tee is check my mobile phone. No calls, then pop it in the boot of the car. Play my round and take clubs back to the car. 4 hours or less (hopefully). Check phone. Any calls? Reply to them before heading into the bar. No calls? Leave phone in boot of the car. Check it again when leaving the bar to drive home. So 4 hours if the maximum that I've been "uncontactable".