Club Membership Interveiw.

ger147 said:
I played Turnberry last year and had lunch overlooking the 18th green on the Ailsa course where Tom Watson famously triumphed over Jack Nicklaus after their Duel in the Sun. The course was in fantastic condition and it was superb to have had the chance to play at such a famous venue. No tie was required.

I also played at Gleneagles last year over the PGA Centenary course which is hosting this year's Ryder Cup. The meal afterwards in the sumptuous clubhouse was lovely and the day was made all the more enjoyable by the warmest of welcomes from the starter, all the complimentary goodies and tips for how to play some of the trickier holes ahead. Again, no tie was required.

So in my experinece, there is no correlation whatsoever between the quality of the golf course, the clubhouse, the overall enjoyment of a day's golf at a top class golf course and the requirement to wear a tie.
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There isn't

But if you were asked to wear a tie - would you say no and go elsewhere

Would people turn down golf days out because they would have to wear a tie

A lot of societies or club matches require you to wear club/society tie and jacket to the after meal - I'm guessing people wouldn't play in these then

If people just want to play golf then go home then they would have no need to wear jacket and tie etc

But a lot of people want to gain the full experience of being a member of a golf club which includes representing the club in matches etc - that's a different experience to just playing golf.

Can understand people just being a car park golfer and some clubs are ok with them but I prefer to gain the full experience of being a member at a golf club
 
Liverpoolphil said:
There isn't

But if you were asked to wear a tie - would you say no and go elsewhere

Would people turn down golf days out because they would have to wear a tie

A lot of societies or club matches require you to wear club/society tie and jacket to the after meal - I'm guessing people wouldn't play in these then

If people just want to play golf then go home then they would have no need to wear jacket and tie etc

But a lot of people want to gain the full experience of being a member of a golf club which includes representing the club in matches etc - that's a different experience to just playing golf.

Can understand people just being a car park golfer and some clubs are ok with them but I prefer to gain the full experience of being a member at a golf club
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I agree that that is the situation as we speak, but in an ideal world, if you had the decision, would you enforce a suit and tie in all of these situations? And if so, why/why not?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Played yesterday at the Berkshire - stunning course , wonderful lunch and we were all required to wear a jacket and tie whilst having lunch

It felt smart and distinguished and blended in with the whole atmosphere and clubhouse. High standards on and off the course where maintained and it was great to feel a part of it all
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Bit of a palaver if you then go out and play the other course after Lunch though!

Still best day's Golf in the South though imo!

As for ties vs open-necked...tie is much smarter imo. That open area with (or maybe without) buttons needs to be hidden/broken up imo. Bow Tie doesn't do it either, merely focusing attention elsewhere.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
There isn't

But if you were asked to wear a tie - would you say no and go elsewhere

Would people turn down golf days out because they would have to wear a tie

A lot of societies or club matches require you to wear club/society tie and jacket to the after meal - I'm guessing people wouldn't play in these then

If people just want to play golf then go home then they would have no need to wear jacket and tie etc

But a lot of people want to gain the full experience of being a member of a golf club which includes representing the club in matches etc - that's a different experience to just playing golf.

Can understand people just being a car park golfer and some clubs are ok with them but I prefer to gain the full experience of being a member at a golf club
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You do not require a tie to sample the full experience of golf club membership.
 
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CheltenhamHacker said:
I agree that that is the situation as we speak, but in an ideal world, if you had the decision, would you enforce a suit and tie in all of these situations? And if so, why/why not?
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Yes I would continue to see jacket and ties in club matches and society meets etc

Because it's I tradition that I like and agree with
 
Isn't it Lytham Green Drive you mentioned you were joining?

If so, then you've no need for shirt and tie normally. I've been there many times and never had to wear either. Granted I can understand that there are particular occasions, like presentation nights or a members interview where they ask for shirt, tie & jacket but on any normal occasion you'll be fine.

It's a nice course and a nice club, all the members I've met there have been really nice. Apart from one of my best mates who plays there. Obviously I class him as a complete tool :whistle:
 
stevie_r said:
The level of pomposity on this forum nearly makes me wet my pants with laughter at times. So just to confirm, if you have to wear a tie and pass a 'test' satisfying some guys who still think it is 1956 you are joining a club, if not you are buying a season ticket to play golf. :rofl:
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Sorry - but if you drive into the club car park; play the course; then when finished playing get back in the car - then what is the difference between that and having an annual season ticket to play a course. You certainly aren't being a full and active member of a golf club. You are paying your £££s to have free access to a golf course at just about any time you choose. A course which will almost certainly need funds in addition to your subs to be maintained in the condition that you find it.

Golf clubs would simply like to think that all members would do their bit to become part of and contribute to the great whole and good. I think some interview panels might be a little upset though wouldn't say so if you dressed-down for an interview when it is just as easy to dress up. Why not just accept that you might be doing the right thing by making an effort - why try and undermine or belittle things just because you think and know that you can.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Golf clubs would simply like to think that all members would do their bit to become part of and contribute to the great whole and good. I think some interview panels might be a little upset though wouldn't say so if you dressed-down for an interview when it is just as easy to dress up. Why not just accept that you might be doing the right thing by making an effort - why try and undermine or belittle things just because you think and know that you can.
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I do that at my club without wearing a tie i.e. I take part in comps, I have attended functions, I visit the bar after a round, I have visited with my family to eat/drink/socialise when I'm not playing golf, I have volunteered to help at divot repair nights and at Open Days. I attended the AGM and voted on the resolutions, I donated a nice prize to a recent fundraising night for a local charity and have recently been invited to join a new sub committee.

The two are not connected in any way, shape or form.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Sorry - but if you drive into the club car park; play the course; then when finished playing get back in the car - then what is the difference between that and having an annual season ticket to play a course. You certainly aren't being a full and active member of a golf club. You are paying your £££s to have free access to a golf course at just about any time you choose. A course which will almost certainly need funds in addition to your subs to be maintained in the condition that you find it.

Golf clubs would simply like to think that all members would do their bit to become part of and contribute to the great whole and good. I think some interview panels might be a little upset though wouldn't say so if you dressed-down for an interview when it is just as easy to dress up. Why not just accept that you might be doing the right thing by making an effort - why try and undermine or belittle things just because you think and know that you can.
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Could you quote where I said I do that I only ever see the car park and the course? Could you also point out evidence that you can only be a contributing member of a golf club if you wore a collar and tie to an interview?

What I find incredibly irritating are your constant claims that anyone not doing things your way (as evidenced on countless threads) are actually getting everything very wrong and contributing to the downfall of golf, society and mankind in general.
 
ger147 said:
I do that at my club without wearing a tie i.e. I take part in comps, I have attended functions, I visit the bar after a round, I have visited with my family to eat/drink/socialise when I'm not playing golf, I have volunteered to help at divot repair nights and at Open Days. I attended the AGM and voted on the resolutions, I donated a nice prize to a recent fundraising night for a local charity and have recently been invited to join a new sub committee.

The two are not connected in any way, shape or form.
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As we discussed earlier - its all dependant on what each persons club decides.

if they dont want their club players to wear shirt and tie after matches thats fine

I think what SILH was describing the difference between "car park golfers" and "fully integrated club golfers"

The standard of dress will be different at each club - there is no right or wrong answer
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Sorry - but if you drive into the club car park; play the course; then when finished playing get back in the car - then what is the difference between that and having an annual season ticket to play a course. You certainly aren't being a full and active member of a golf club. You are paying your £££s to have free access to a golf course at just about any time you choose. A course which will almost certainly need funds in addition to your subs to be maintained in the condition that you find it.

Golf clubs would simply like to think that all members would do their bit to become part of and contribute to the great whole and good. I think some interview panels might be a little upset though wouldn't say so if you dressed-down for an interview when it is just as easy to dress up. Why not just accept that you might be doing the right thing by making an effort - why try and undermine or belittle things just because you think and know that you can.
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Free access to the course? Er no we pay the same as everyone else. That inlcudes the annual bar levy etc
 
Liverpoolphil said:
There does appear to be a slight attitude towards clubs that do require a tie etc
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And yet I detect the exact opposite i.e. an attitude of looking down on golfers who don't wear a tie e.g. the comments about car park golfers, not being a full & active member etc. all associated with the wearing of a tie.
 
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