Club Membership Interveiw.

Why is it so hard to simply accept that a golf club interview panel might quite like potential members to make an effort. It shows a willingness to 'become part of' and not an indication of 'I'll do it my way'. Surely in life our default start position should be to show respect and courtesy to others.

And why is it so hard for you to accept that many golf clubs do not equate making an effort to the wearing of a tie?
 
i really do not see how this has turned into an argument. From what I understand from the OP he was just asking about this old tradition and seeing if other places are still doing it.

Because there were accusations and assertions that If you weren't that keen on tie wearing, or willing to put yourself forward for an interview akin to interrogation, that you were automatically a car park golfer with no interest on fully integrating into a club.
 
Because there were accusations and assertions that If you weren't that keen on tie wearing, or willing to put yourself forward for an interview akin to interrogation, that you were automatically a car park golfer with no interest on fully integrating into a club.

That was why I asked about how this has turned into an argument. Some people do not have time in their day to frequent the clubhouse after every round of golf. Someone with a young family might have other commitments on a Saturday afternoon.

Tie or or no tie, if you want to join a club that still requires that then you have to go with the traditions. I do not care either way, I have several suits and a blazer and plenty of ties, it is not a hassle to wear them.
 
Well it's all done and dusted and I am a fully paid up member of a golf club!

As most people said it was very informal, I asked more questions than they did, then spent more time being shown how to use the booking system!

I've got the badge the swipe card and the diary!

I just need the handicap now and I will be officially one of you lot!

They are going to check if my HC is valid from last year then I will ready to go!
 
Well it's all done and dusted and I am a fully paid up member of a golf club!

As most people said it was very informal, I asked more questions than they did, then spent more time being shown how to use the booking system!

I've got the badge the swipe card and the diary!

I just need the handicap now and I will be officially one of you lot!

They are going to check if my HC is valid from last year then I will ready to go!

Congratulations on joining the ranks of golf club membership. I hope your new club is a good fit.
 
Well it's all done and dusted and I am a fully paid up member of a golf club!

As most people said it was very informal, I asked more questions than they did, then spent more time being shown how to use the booking system!

I've got the badge the swipe card and the diary!

I just need the handicap now and I will be officially one of you lot!

They are going to check if my HC is valid from last year then I will ready to go!

Well done.
My interview, not that long back, was a "welcome to the club" chat considering I was embarking on a minimum £1000 a year commitment.
As for wearing a collar and tie or black tie and penguin suit I did it for 35 years during my working life and now just bluddy hate it but.... I have a choice to comply, if I want to participate socially (and I do frequently) or play elsewhere.
I have a "Captain's last dinner/dance" Saturday evening, smart casual, and two lunches in the week, collar and tie.
I prefer smart casual but.......I'll support all three as the lunches are "teams" I play with.*
I play about 3 times a week and always shower, change and socialise in the clubhouse with the groups I play with.

* Not a "normal" week.
 
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...however the bar and facilities as a stand alone profit centre runs at a loss every year and is picked up out of the membership fees, thus meaning that if we were to shut the bar and just have a cabin, at least in theory our subs would reduce.

Fine - but how many societies, visitors and entries to Open comps would you get? Unless you are a pretty darned tip top special course (with no bar? anyway) I hazard a guess that you would get very few - and that would seriously impact a club's balance sheet.
 
And why is it so hard for you to accept that many golf clubs do not equate making an effort to the wearing of a tie?

All I am saying is that dressing up for an interview indicates a recognition of the fact that members clubs have traditions - some of which they will have relaxed - but it is a nice indication of you understanding that members clubs have traditions. Dressing-down and however you wish does rather give the impression that you are not really that bothered if someone interviewing you might rfeally have preferred a shirt and tie - showing respect to the club and it's traditions.

If you know the club is totally relaxed about such things than no problem at all - wear whatever you want. But where you don;t there is never any harm in showing you care by ensuring you are dressed as they could possibly wish you to be.

And that's all.
 
Well it's all done and dusted and I am a fully paid up member of a golf club!

As most people said it was very informal, I asked more questions than they did, then spent more time being shown how to use the booking system!

I've got the badge the swipe card and the diary!

I just need the handicap now and I will be officially one of you lot!

They are going to check if my HC is valid from last year then I will ready to go!

Out of interest - were you wearing a shirt and tie (and even a jacket) and was the interviewer(s).

Did you feel comfortable?
 
All I am saying is that dressing up for an interview indicates a recognition of the fact that members clubs have traditions - some of which they will have relaxed - but it is a nice indication of you understanding that members clubs have traditions. Dressing-down and however you wish does rather give the impression that you are not really that bothered if someone interviewing you might rfeally have preferred a shirt and tie - showing respect to the club and it's traditions.

If you know the club is totally relaxed about such things than no problem at all - wear whatever you want. But where you don;t there is never any harm in showing you care by ensuring you are dressed as they could possibly wish you to be.

And that's all.

It may be your opinion but it's certainly not shared by me or many others.

Turning up on time, being polite etc. are far more important than wearing a tie in my view. And as per usual, you refuse to acknowledge a point of view other than your own.
 
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I expressed an interest in joining Denham Golf Club a few years ago. I was told that I had to know and get personal endorsements from 20 existing members before I could even be considered for membership. As I didn't know any, needless to say I went elsewhere! :(

That is just shocking in todays world. :confused: And we wonder why people still think that golf clubs are full of a bunch of antiquated, out of touch, stuck up pompous twits? Unbelievable.....:(
 
It may be your opinion but it's certainly not shared by me or many others.

Turning up on time, being polite etc. are far more important than wearing a tie in my view. And as per usual, you refuse to acknowledge a point of view other than your own.

I quite acknowledge other points of view - I am not saying you or they are wrong.

I just think that here is no harm in wearing a shirt and tie (and jacket) to an interview of a members golf club. If you don't care that the interviewer might just think 'would have been nice if he'd made a little bit more of an effort' then fine by me. You might well think such thinking old-fashioned and stuffy - but hey ho - there are some traditionalist and maybe slightly old fashioned and stuffy committee members out there. Why even bother taking that chance when it is easy to 'conform' to the stereotype and does nobody any harm.
 
When our place was full and we had a waiting list, at interview, we made it clear that we didn't welcome car park members. The budgets were calculated on the basis that each members added value could allow the club to spend more on the course etc as ell as keep subscriptions to a level that was the best we could do, so everyone contributed and everyone benefitted!

Things have changed now and virtually anyone can join, but to make up for the car park members we have to increase the potential membership limit
 
I quite acknowledge other points of view - I am not saying you or they are wrong.

I just think that here is no harm in wearing a shirt and tie (and jacket) to an interview of a members golf club. If you don't care that the interviewer might just think 'would have been nice if he'd made a little bit more of an effort' then fine by me. You might well think such thinking old-fashioned and stuffy - but hey ho - there are some traditionalist and maybe slightly old fashioned and stuffy committee members out there. Why even bother taking that chance when it is easy to 'conform' to the stereotype and does nobody any harm.

There you go again - linking the not wearing of a tie to "not caring", "making an effort" etc. In summary, all of your posts in this thread equate to tie = good, no tie = bad. That in my view is complete nonsense, hence why I am challenging it.

As a committee member myself, making an effort is turning up on time, being polite, have done a wee bit of research about the club beforehand etc. Tie or no tie is completely irrelevant.

Many folk don't turn up at all or cancel at the last minute, others turn up late and one or two have had to answer an "important call" in the middle of the chat. I'll happily take someone who turns up on time, is polite and has questions to ask over a late comer on their mobile in a tie.
 
Out of interest - were you wearing a shirt and tie (and even a jacket) and was the interviewer(s).

Did you feel comfortable?

We were instructed to wear jacket and tie when invited for the interveiw...

Interveiwed by the captain/ vice captian and secretery who had club blazers and shirt and tie.

No, i didnt feel comfortable and still think it was unnecessary. The interveiw (chat) was informal and didn't lend itself to require formal attire at all. I just think its another case of 'because thats how we've always done it'...

Things like that I will tolerate (have to). I agree with a common sense aproach when it comes to golfing attire and whats worn around the clubhouse.. Some rules seem to be for rules sake and not moving with the times though.
 
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