Club Membership Interveiw.

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

There you go again - linking the not wearing of a tie to "not caring", "making an effort" etc. In summary, all of your posts in this thread equate to tie = good, no tie = bad. That in my view is complete nonsense, hence why I am challenging it.

As a committee member myself, making an effort is turning up on time, being polite, have done a wee bit of research about the club beforehand etc. Tie or no tie is completely irrelevant.

Many folk don't turn up at all or cancel at the last minute, others turn up late and one or two have had to answer an "important call" in the middle of the chat. I'll happily take someone who turns up on time, is polite and has questions to ask over a late comer on their mobile in a tie.

I'm not linking anything with anything. I'n suggesting what a committee member's perception might be of an interviewee. And they might think 'could have made more of an effort'. I am not saying 'tie good' - 'no tie bad' at all. And I am not saying a committee member will think that - but they might. I accept that many believe that what you wear makes no difference to others perception of you - or are just not bothered. But in an interview (forgetting for a moment whether the interview is in itself an anachronism) if you care what others think of you then why take that chance. Each to his or her own.

 

[ger147]

I'm not linking anything with anything. I'n suggesting what a committee member's perception might be of an interviewee. And they might think 'could have made more of an effort'. I am not saying 'tie good' - 'no tie bad' at all. And I am not saying a committee member will think that - but they might. I accept that many believe that what you wear makes no difference to others perception of you - or are just not bothered. But in an interview (forgetting for a moment whether the interview is in itself an anachronism) if you care what others think of you then why take that chance. Each to his or her own.

And they might not think you should have made more of an effort if you're not wearing a tie, or they might think you're a bit of a tool if you turn up wearing a jacket and tie. Getting riskier and riskier by the second...

 

[Fyldewhite]

We were instructed to wear jacket and tie when invited for the interveiw...

Interveiwed by the captain/ vice captian and secretery who had club blazers and shirt and tie.

No, i didnt feel comfortable and still think it was unnecessary. The interveiw (chat) was informal and didn't lend itself to require formal attire at all. I just think its another case of 'because thats how we've always done it'...

Things like that I will tolerate (have to). I agree with a common sense aproach when it comes to golfing attire and whats worn around the clubhouse.. Some rules seem to be for rules sake and not moving with the times though.

Can't remember where you said you were joining (LGD?) but as I said a long time ago near the start of this thread, the clubs round here do cling on to tradition for the more formal occasions (quite rightly mostly), new members interviews being one of them though most have moved with the times in terms of smart casual wear, jeans etc.

My own view is that whenever you turn up for a meeting at work, job interview, golf club or whatever then if you are on time, well presented and well mannered then you will come over better. Now, whether that includes wearing a tie is a moot point and depends on personal preference. At work I don't, business casual is order of the day. If I have a customer meeting though I probably do, especially until I get to know them. It's horses for courses but turning it around, what would you think if you had turned up (say) smart but not suited and booted ......but the secretary and captain had been wearing torn jeans, scruffy trainers and Megadeth t-shirts?

I've no real cross to bear in this argument but I'd certainly say that most committees and club officials will make an effort to be smart and if you do the same they will have a better impression of you (rightly or wrongly) so why wouldn't anyone want to make the best impression they can?

As for car park golfers.......someone needs to start a new thread and stop hijacking yours lol

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

and we wonder why less and less people are joining golf clubs........

My friend had an interview at hayling, endorsed by 2 players in the scratch team (one of which is a county player), turned up fully suited and booted and got turned away.

i can only imagine its because he is a tradesman.

Hayling is a very down to earth club with lots of tradesmen and ordinary working guys. He must have said or done something out of order to get turned down. His loss unfortunately as it's a great members club.

 

[MendieGK]

Hayling is a very down to earth club with lots of tradesmen and ordinary working guys. He must have said or done something out of order to get turned down. His loss unfortunately as it's a great members club.

He reapplied 18months later and got accepted, very strange. Would agree though that it has a good atmosphere,i know a lot of people of there.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And they might not think you should have made more of an effort if you're not wearing a tie, or they might think you're a bit of a tool if you turn up wearing a jacket and tie. Getting riskier and riskier by the second...

Which is of course true - they might not think that I could have made more effort - though quite why they'd think me a bit of a tool for wearing a jacket and tie I don't know.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I've no real cross to bear in this argument but I'd certainly say that most committees and club officials will make an effort to be smart and if you do the same they will have a better impression of you (rightly or wrongly) so why wouldn't anyone want to make the best impression they can?

That's just all I suggest too

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And they might not think you should have made more of an effort if you're not wearing a tie, or they might think you're a bit of a tool if you turn up wearing a jacket and tie. Getting riskier and riskier by the second...

I'm not sure why anyone would be thought of as a tool just for wearing a jacket and tie ?!

 

[fundy]

I think the tie has been taken out of proportion.

The question is how many would have turned down the society meet yesterday because it involved having to wear a tie and jacket afterwards

This is an interesting one. I hear today that our seniors are struggling to get enough for a match at LB soon Phil because of the requirement of having to wear jacket and tie afterwards! We have a very busy group of seniors who are very sociable after their games (clubhouse is usually full of them mon/wed/fri) but as a group the majority clearly dont like to have to get dressed up post match!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is an interesting one. I hear today that our seniors are struggling to get enough for a match at LB soon Phil because of the requirement of having to wear jacket and tie afterwards! We have a very busy group of seniors who are very sociable after their games (clubhouse is usually full of them mon/wed/fri) but as a group the majority clearly dont like to have to get dressed up post match!

Think they had the same problem last year as well.

To me it's not really a hassle to have a shower and put a jacket and tie on for an hour or so afterwards. Just feels right

Been doing it in many sports over the years.

 

[fundy]

Think they had the same problem last year as well.

To me it's not really a hassle to have a shower and put a jacket and tie on for an hour or so afterwards. Just feels right

Been doing it in many sports over the years.

Yep Im the same (albeit I have to locate mine now I wear one so rarely now that I dont wear to work). Struck me as a bit strange but some of them are pretty set in their ways

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yep Im the same (albeit I have to locate mine now I wear one so rarely now that I dont wear to work). Struck me as a bit strange but some of them are pretty set in their ways

Do they have senior matches with any others in Beds because they all do the same after match dinner with Jacket and Tie ?

 

[User62651]

I've been a member of 5 clubs, all in Scotland and have never heard if an interview to join, never paid more than £300 subs either. If you live away from large population centres then it seems golf is cheap and not class linked.
Re car park golfers, clubs should appreciate that even if you are a carpark golfer now due to work and family commitments then at some point in the future after kids have grown up and you're retired then you'll probably practically live at the club so it evens out!

 

[fundy]

Do they have senior matches with any others in Beds because they all do the same after match dinner with Jacket and Tie ?

Not sure tbh mate, just happened to be a converation in the bar today when I was there. They have plenty of other matches with a meal afterwards, assume they must agree no jacket and tie with most but its always enforced at LB

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not sure tbh mate, just happened to be a converation in the bar today when I was there. They have plenty of other matches with a meal afterwards, assume they must agree no jacket and tie with most but its always enforced at LB

Yeah the only time it's non jacket and tie is juniors vs the club

 

[richart]

Members of my Society which played at the Berkshire always wear jacket and ties for the after golf food. If you forget to wear the Society tie you get fined. Next course we are playing is mine, which only requires smart casual in the dining room, but everyone will still wear a jacket and tie. I personally like the idea, bit of tradition, and guarantees everyone has had a shower.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Members of my Society which played at the Berkshire always wear jacket and ties for the after golf food. If you forget to wear the Society tie you get fined. Next course we are playing is mine, which only requires smart casual in the dining room, but everyone will still wear a jacket and tie. I personally like the idea, bit of tradition, and guarantees everyone has had a shower.

And you all looked very smart when you visited my track

 

[richart]

And you all looked very smart when you visited my track

I thank you. Shame I couldn't say the same about you.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Members of my Society which played at the Berkshire always wear jacket and ties for the after golf food. If you forget to wear the Society tie you get fined. Next course we are playing is mine, which only requires smart casual in the dining room, but everyone will still wear a jacket and tie. I personally like the idea, bit of tradition, and guarantees everyone has had a shower.

One of the reasons why I enjoyed the day and will be there again at Blackmoor and joining the society - nice traditional society

 

[richart]

One of the reasons why I enjoyed the day and will be there again at Blackmoor and joining the society - nice traditional society

Good to hear, but I amazed you avoided a black ball in one of our other traditions.