closing threads grrr

I've been on here a while now but it seems to me that the forum has got worse for posts been taken the wrong way and getting out of hand and descending into petty squabbles, posts get hijacked and run at tangents as in my recent UKIP post in the OOB section. No where in the post was Scottish independence mentioned but 50% of posts on it where about Scottish independence. Mods have the right to protect people from attack and should be allowed to vet and stop any post that they deem fit. They are there to protect the reputation of GM and I feel they do a good job especially in the OOB section which I feel should be policed more than it is. I'm personally not too bothered what people think of me as Smiffy says water off a ducks but GM have to protect their product and reputation.
 
drawboy said:
I've been on here a while now but it seems to me that the forum has got worse for posts been taken the wrong way and getting out of hand and descending into petty squabbles, posts get hijacked and run at tangents as in my recent UKIP post in the OOB section. No where in the post was Scottish independence mentioned but 50% of posts on it where about Scottish independence. Mods have the right to protect people from attack and should be allowed to vet and stop any post that they deem fit. They are there to protect the reputation of GM and I feel they do a good job especially in the OOB section which I feel should be policed more than it is. I'm personally not too bothered what people think of me as Smiffy says water off a ducks but GM have to protect their product and reputation.
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Where's the like button?
 
I do find it rather amusing/sad/hypocritical that most golfers are so upset if someone suggests playing golf without a collar on their shirt or with an untucked shirt as it offends their sense of tradition and etiquette . Yet can not manage to have sensible conversations on a forum without the need for it to be moded, with posts descending into insults and petty squabbles. ;)
 
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Phil2511 said:
The Ice Man thread had at least 7 warnings on it. The 1 sentence replies which were made to goad, back and forth is not pro-active for ANY forum, let alone a commercial forum.

The thread is locked and still in The Lounge and already I have received a PM commenting on how bad it was, and that was after I had removed 35 posts from it of what can only be described as posting for the same of it. That's 3 and a 1/2 pages for people to see and think what kind of forum is this.

None of the moderator team enjoy having to close or remove threads or posts, already we have had 2 quit and others considering it.

If you want to be treated as adults then perhaps its time to start acting like adults. I've 3 kids of 10 and under and they and their multitude of friends don't behave in the way some here have done over the past few days.

MikeH wrote a post just before Xmas
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The trouble is Phil, if the threads that are the most interesting are over modded ( in the members view) then you just end up with the "what's the best rain suit" threads. I accept its a very fine line and the rules are rightly set by GM but whilst we arnt allowed to veer from the rules and have a real debate then regular posters will just disappear in time if the posts just get sterile and boring.

I have to say that I am stunned sometimes by the views that some people express here, even over what I would call trivial matters, but reading and reacting to them is what makes a thread more interesting. No, I don't want swearing, shear rudeness etc etc but if like the Ice Man thread, I do want to read everyone's views and be allowed to state my own in, as much as possible, a free press situation. Also, it was, in my view, the OP who was ott in his replies at times but I read nothing that was overly offensive
 
We all need to relax a bit here guys. Step back, reflect on things and work through them like adults. Too often are we getting into an us and them argument with the mods.
 
Captainron said:
We all need to relax a bit here guys. Step back, reflect on things and work through them like adults. Too often are we getting into an us and them argument with the mods.
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A "good" mod is one that you don't even realise is a mod. There when needed, but sits in the background. Unfortunately, one or two (in my opinion of course) see fit to throw their weight around when it's usually unnecessary instead of sitting back and seeing how a thread develops. The fact they they "think" it is going to go the wrong way is seen as an excuse to wield the axe.
That's the bit I don't like.
 
chrisd said:
The trouble is Phil, if the threads that are the most interesting are over modded ( in the members view) then you just end up with the "what's the best rain suit" threads. I accept its a very fine line and the rules are rightly set by GM but whilst we arnt allowed to veer from the rules and have a real debate then regular posters will just disappear in time if the posts just get sterile and boring.

I have to say that I am stunned sometimes by the views that some people express here, even over what I would call trivial matters, but reading and reacting to them is what makes a thread more interesting. No, I don't want swearing, shear rudeness etc etc but if like the Ice Man thread, I do want to read everyone's views and be allowed to state my own in, as much as possible, a free press situation. Also, it was, in my view, the OP who was ott in his replies at times but I read nothing that was overly offensive
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The thing is that people ARE leaving or participating less than before.

Snelly is an example, Greg just quit as a moderator and Bobmac hardly posts at all these days all due to the behaviour of others.

The biggest disgrace recently has to be yesterday in Ricks Orka thread, I just read the last page and once its drawn to the attention of MikeH, which I'm sure he will see it, is hardly going to be positive for the forum.
 
Phil2511 said:
The thing is that people ARE leaving or participating less than before.

Snelly is an example, Greg just quit as a moderator and Bobmac hardly posts at all these days all due to the behaviour of others.

The biggest disgrace recently has to be yesterday in Ricks Orka thread, I just read the last page and once its drawn to the attention of MikeH, which I'm sure he will see it, is hardly going to be positive for the forum.
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I was offline yesterday whilst switching Internet providers so didn't see the Orka thread develop. I agree, people do come and go but there is little evidence that they are being driven away by the behaviour of others. Yes, Bob posts much less but that's because, largely, of a disagreement between him and Justone over teaching methods and not concerted abuse or anything like. I don't think Greg quit for any other reason than those I read this morning and particularly the fact he had done 5 years in the post.

All I am saying is that if the forum is over modded then it will get sterile, the threads boring and people will not spend so muh time here. I am not saying that this has been happening too much but just pointing out the danger of over reacting to the odd pm with a complaint and pulling a thread that 99% of the members wouldn't take offence to.
 
I dont think forumers have a problem most of the time and life is grand but every now and then, some folk may feel that one or two mods go over the top and abuse their position and they just want to discuss it. That's the way I see it.
 
Mod away guys. Its a tough job and no doubt done with the best interests of the forum and GM at heart. I might not agree with some of modding but I accept why its been done.
 
bobmac said:
I dont think forumers have a problem most of the time and life is grand but every now and then, some folk may feel that one or two mods go over the top and abuse their position and they just want to discuss it. That's the way I see it.
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And that's the way it is Bob. But no, you aren't allowed to discuss it. You are told to "stop bleating" and are accused of "mod bashing".
The mods that I am talking about know who they are. But they are sitting there safe in their ivory towers laughing as they get away with it time and time again. I know for a fact that complaints have been aired about them before. But nothing is done.
It's a two way street this moderating lark.
 
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