Clocks go back this weekend!

It's 05.45 GMT on Sunday 25th October and it's already getting light where I am. I believe most school days start at 09.00, so that's over 3 hours to get your kids to school in daylight. How long do you need?
Why don't you take advantage of the light morning and go and have a round of golf

Around here kids start leaving for school around 7:30

Isn't it great that they feel safer walking to school in the light - that's more important than an extra hour a businessman is it not Delc ?
 
Its very dark still now, in fact it's pitch black and the wife walks Max at 7am so will be darker from tomorrow, kids will be going to school in the dark with sleep in their eyes and knobs in BMW's & Audi's will be racing to work, so yeah, I think darker mornings are an issue personally!

I must stop drinking in the morning, got this totally arse about tit !
 
I must stop drinking in the morning, got this totally arse about tit !

Yep, thought so. But you seemed so happy in your ignorance I didn't want to burst your bubble:ears:

And its 6:50 and only just light enough here to hit a ball... if it was light enough for Delc at 5:45, and an hour later here, imagine what it'll be like in Aberdeen.
 
Why don't you take advantage of the light morning and go and have a round of golf

Around here kids start leaving for school around 7:30

Isn't it great that they feel safer walking to school in the light - that's more important than an extra hour a businessman is it not Delc ?

Due to Contracts of employment of the staff, etc, the earliest available tee time at our club is 07.15, and that wouldn't give enough time to play even 9 holes before I would have to start commuting to work. So I can't use the extra hour of daylight in the morning for playing golf. :(
 
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Due to Contracts of employment of the staff, etc, the earliest available tee time at our club is 07.15, and that wouldn't give enough time to play even 9 holes before I would have to start commuting to work. So I can't use the extra hour of daylight in the morning for playing golf. :(
But kids get to school safer is that not more important ? Yes or no Delc
 
Due to Contracts of employment of the staff, etc, the earliest available tee time at our club is 07.15, and that wouldn't give enough time to play even 9 holes before I would have to start commuting to work. So I can't use the extra hour of daylight in the morning for playing golf.

I'm with you here comrade. To be honest I think the fact that golfers can't actually use the extra hour in the morning to play golf is reason enough to scrap the clocks changing on its own.

You have selfish contracts of employment to stop workers being exploited, no doubt imposed by the nanny state, or health and safety. Plus it might be a bit safer for kids allegedly. But has anyone here stopped to think of the real victims of the clocks changing? It's Golfers!

Yet more discrimination and prejudice we suffer.
 
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Yep, thought so. But you seemed so happy in your ignorance I didn't want to burst your bubble:ears:

And its 6:50 and only just light enough here to hit a ball... if it was light enough for Delc at 5:45, and an hour later here, imagine what it'll be like in Aberdeen.
I was on holiday in Aberdeenshire just over a week ago and the daylight hours were a bit shorter than in the South of England. However those in Scotland get much longer hours of daylight in the Summer, so please stop wingeing. I once had a holiday in June in the far North of Scotland and it never really got dark. You could probably play golf 24 hours a day up there! :)
 
I was on holiday in Aberdeenshire just over a week ago and the daylight hours were a bit shorter than in the South of England. However those in Scotland get much longer hours of daylight in the Summer, so please stop wingeing. I once had a holiday in June in the far North of Scotland and it never really got dark. You could probably play golf 24 hours a day up there! :)
I agree, I'm sick of Hobbit's selfish, narrow minded wingeing, it's not all about him!😜
 
I'm with you here comrade. To be honest I think the fact that golfers can't actually use the extra hour in the morning to play golf is reason enough to scrap the clocks changing on its own.

You have selfish contracts of employment to stop workers being exploited, no doubt imposed by the nanny state, or health and safety. Plus it might be a bit safer for kids allegedly. But has anyone here stopped to think of the real victims of the clocks changing? It's Golfers!

Yet more discrimination and prejudice we suffer.
I am retired now, but when I did work it was normally specified in my contract of
Employment that I worked 08.30 to 17.00 or 09.00 to 17.30 with an hour lunch break. The best job I ever had had flexitime, where I had to be there in the core times of 10.00 - 12.00 and 14.00 to 16.00 and work 37.5 hours a week (although due to pressure of work it was usually a lot longer than that). This largely allowed me to avoid the worse of the rush hours, and if I wanted to leave at 16.00 to fit in a round of golf after work I could. Unfortunately flexitime is pretty rare these day due to Health 'n Safety and the Single Working directive!

With GMT the Sun is at its highest point in the sky at 12 noon, with sunrise and sunset being approximately symmetrically before and after this. For most of the year this wastes hours of daylight before most working people and school children even get up. You do also normally get about 30 minutes of twilight before the Sun rises and after it sets to add to this. Nobody likes getting up in the dark, but it's only for a few weeks in the middle of Winter. For the majority of UK citizens, long light evenings are more useful than long light mornings, and would significantly cut power consumption, so fewer wind turbines and Chinese nuclear power stations required!
 
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I am retired now, but when I did work it was normally specified in my contract of
Employment that I worked 08.30 to 17.00 or 09.00 to 17.30 with an hour lunch break. The best job I ever had had flexitime, where I had to be there in the core times of 10.00 - 12.00 and 14.00 to 16.00 and work 37.5 hours a week (although due to pressure of work it was usually a lot longer than that). This largely allowed me to avoid the worse of the rush hours, and if I wanted to leave at 16.00 to fit in a round of golf after work I could. Unfortunately flexitime is pretty rare these day due to Health 'n Safety and the Single Working directive!

With GMT the Sun is at its highest point in the sky at 12 noon, with sunrise and sunset being approximately symmetrically before and after this. For most of the year this wastes hours of daylight before most working people and school children even get up. You do also normally get about 30 minutes of twilight before the Sun rises and after it sets to add to this. Nobody likes getting up in the dark, but it's only for a few weeks in the middle of Winter.
If you're now retired, why does it matter what the clock says, surely you can adjust your day accordingly, better than flexi-time.
 
Vaguely remember there being a trial of not changing the clocks around the time I stated working [1969]... Not really sure it made any difference to anything as 'normal service' returned...
 
It's 05.45 GMT on Sunday 25th October and it's already getting light where I am. I believe most school days start at 09.00, so that's over 3 hours to get your kids to school in daylight. How long do you need?

There's a vast difference (about half an hour to over an hour depending on location and activity) between 'getting light' and actually 'being light! Sunrise today was 6:41 - and it certainly wasn't light enough to play Golf then!

Today's 'Lighting Down' time - when sun is 95% below the zenith - was around 6:15!
 
Why not just shut all schools between October and March and open them from 8am to 8pm through the summer months with no holidays? That way kids wouldn't have to travel in the dark. :)
 
There you go again Phil demanding an answer,why? its becoming a habit now when you don't like what people are writing.
Its becoming a bit repetitive.

You have not got kids so why the stance.

First thing - the question is extremely relevant to the debate as its one of the main reasons for the change in clocks and it's a question he keeps avoiding

Secondly - I didn't realise that you needed to be a parent to show concerns about kids - will remember next time to not care a single thing about them
 
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