Clocks go back this weekend!

[Alex1975]

It is what it is... I am mentally prepared... I think...

 

[USER1999]

Do kids not get run over in the dark on their way home? Why is it only a problem in the morning?

 

[Three]

We would go to European time,.

The clocks change in Europe too.
I'm in Europe and we'll be putting them back Saturday night.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Yes, but if we did not put ours back then we would then be on the same time. By altering ours we remain with a 1 hour time difference.

 

[BubbaP]

I am in Europe last time I looked at the Atlas

Was it an old Morecambe and Wise line - "soon off on my holidays to Europe, ... to Bognor Regis"

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I remember they tried not changing the clocks back in 68/69 i think.

It was a complete disaster in Scotland , kids going to school in darkness etc .

I don't see any major problems in having 2 different time zones within the UK .

It was horrid. We were all provided with fluorescent arm bands to wear walking to school in the dark. Yes - back in the day we walked.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

A rather flippant response. In Edinburgh a mid December morning and the streetlights were still on until well after 9am. We walked to school with reflective tabard on to make us visible to drivers.

Unfortunately, road statistics may say one thing, but, personal experience says something else, having known two young boys who were casualties in road traffic accidents on their way to school during that experiment. Only people I knew in all my years at school who were killed in a road accident. And yes it was dark !

You got a tabard? - guess that's Embra for you - kids being a little more precious than us Glaswegians I only remember us getting arm bands.

 

[Val]

Well, for starters, imagine every light bulb in the UK is put on an hour later for 6 months of the year. That saves everyone money, saves energy, is better for the environment. Less crime, more chance to do sport, enjoy the good weather etc etc. It's not just about being light till 11 at night it's about being light till 9 when it currently goes dark at 8, being light till 10 when it currently goes dark at 9 etc. ALL summer

Again you are getting drawn into the winter question.....nothing to do with the point I was making.

Summer time wont change it's winter that changes if we dont move the clocks so the winter question is very relevent.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Work and schools start too late in the south I guess, shift work and school start times for those with longer daylight hours!

Sadly as a service industry based country we would need to run 2 shifts as customers expect 9-5 service.

It's a complicated matter but i think schools and workplaces should excessive flexibility to allow better use of evening and morning light.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Oh come on Phil, that's like saying we should have 10 mph speed limits everywhere because "one road death is too much". Easy to make it a moral high ground debate but I think that's just an easy smokescreen and not really the issue. I've still to hear one convincing argument that an extra hour's daylight in the evening all summer would not be a good idea. I'm sure we all agree the current DST hour and "light nights" is a good thing.......not many would advocate GMT all year round surely. All GMT+2 in the summer does is make it even better.

So you want the clocks to go back 2 hours in the winter and then forward 2 hours in the summer to gain what ? An extra hour ?

 

[Fyldewhite]

So you want the clocks to go back 2 hours in the winter and then forward 2 hours in the summer to gain what ? An extra hour ?

You were the one who said this wasn't complicated.......yet you have complicated it!!!

No, I didn't say that. I said that instead of doing what we do now.....GMT in winter and BST (GMT+1) in summer, we do GMT in winter and BDST (British Double Summer Time - GMT+2) in the summer.

So,
winter = as we are now in winter
summer = an extra hour in the evening compared with what we currently do with all the inherent benefits that would bring.

It really is that simple. Isn't just me btw.....this very topic was debated at some length in parliament just a few years ago and has a lot of support from all over.....just not enough

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You were the one who said this wasn't complicated.......yet you have complicated it!!!

No, I didn't say that. I said that instead of doing what we do now.....GMT in winter and BST (GMT+1) in summer, we do GMT in winter and BDST (British Double Summer Time - GMT+2) in the summer.

So,
winter = as we are now in winter
summer = an extra hour in the evening compared with what we currently do with all the inherent benefits that would bring.

It really is that simple. Isn't just me btw.....this very topic was debated at some length in parliament just a few years ago and has a lot of support from all over.....just not enough

So as I said - the clocks go back 2 hours in October and forward two hours in the summer

And as you said - not enough support so maybe the majority are happy as it is right now

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Think they should rebuild the wall too

They can't....not enough daylight hours to carry out the work

 

[c1973]

Yip, and then extend it right up the east coast :smirk:

Just up the East coast will do me........and maybe across the North for a few miles. Keep the South open.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Just read through this thread, why does pretty much every thread on this forum turn into a pointless petty point scoring exercise these days? And it always seems to be the same culprits.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Sorry Val, I don't understand what you are getting at?

Right now we are all on GMT in winter. Double summer time is just that......you put the clocks forward 2 hours in summer instead of the 1 hour we add at present.
Therefore in winter there is no change if double summer time was introduced.....the winter "darkness" issue really does have no relevance to the point I'm trying to make.
Putting the clocks forward more in summer than we do now has the effect of moving an extra hour of light from the early morning (when most of us are asleep), to evening when most of us are awake. That's all.

 

[Val]

Sorry Val, I don't understand what you are getting at?

Right now we are all on GMT in winter. Double summer time is just that......you put the clocks forward 2 hours in summer instead of the 1 hour we add at present.
Therefore in winter there is no change if double summer time was introduced.....the winter "darkness" issue really does have no relevance to the point I'm trying to make.
Putting the clocks forward more in summer than we do now has the effect of moving an extra hour of light from the early morning (when most of us are asleep), to evening when most of us are awake. That's all.

It was only later I realised you were talking about moving summer time an hour giving a 2 hour change rather than leave winter on BST permanently which is the normal debate. I get your point but the logistics of moving 2 hours every 6 months would make it a no go, hence why there is no support for it.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Does it matter. It ain't going to change any time soon. Nor will different time zones come in. It happens every year. Deal with it. Is it really that much of a hardship?

 

[Fish]

Does it matter. It ain't going to change any time soon. Nor will different time zones come in. It happens every year. Deal with it. Is it really that much of a hardship?

Its very dark still now, in fact it's pitch black and the wife walks Max at 7am so will be darker from tomorrow, kids will be going to school in the dark with sleep in their eyes and knobs in BMW's & Audi's will be racing to work, so yeah, I think darker mornings are an issue personally!

 

[bluewolf]

I haven't seen daylight for a week!!!!