Changing your own tee time /group

[Deleted member 15344]

Blimey phil. Read outside the box. Just saying that getting the belfry to address anything that isn't profit related is difficult.

But that has nothing to do with not having a comp committee and someone volunteering to help which is what was suggested.

Why did you ask the Belfy to offer to join ? The comps sec should be the one to make that choice - just like I do with our place.

 

[hovis]

But that has nothing to do with not having a comp committee and someone volunteering to help which is what was suggested.

Why did you ask the Belfy to offer to join ? The comps sec should be the one to make that choice - just like I do with our place.

Can't be bothered to answer. You'll just find a way to go against the grain as usual

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Can't be bothered to answer. You'll just find a way to go against the grain as usual

I'm not going against the grain

Old Skier asked you why no one had offered to join to form a committee

You responded by saying you asked Belfry and going on about profit making ?

All you have to do it sit once a month with the comp sec - why do you need to ask the Belfry to do that ?

Is the comp sec a Belfry employee or member of the club ?

 

[Old Skier]

Blimey phil. Read outside the box. Just saying that getting the belfry to address anything that isn't profit related is difficult.

I presume the Befry is affiliated to your county and EG. If they are there are rules that they have to abide by (touch screens unfortunately are not in there :angry.

 

[hovis]

I presume the Befry is affiliated to your county and EG. If they are there are rules that they have to abide by (touch screens unfortunately are not in there :angry.

I can't be a 100% in my answer but there is a unusual thing about the belfry in the way that its not a part of some union. The reason i say this is because i young junior amateur turned up at a national comp and wasn't allowed to play for some reason. I'll ask tomorrow!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Belfry were part of the Warks Golf Union

Had to speak to them about a score that wasn't coming through from a competition there

 

[Old Skier]

Belfry were part of the Warks Golf Union

Had to speak to them about a score that wasn't coming through from a competition there

Sounds like they have a problem with their comps admin all round and need help.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sounds like they have a problem with their comps admin all round and need help.

After the last incident that was spoken about on here I think that's very evident - poor from the club

 

[hovis]

Sounds like they have a problem with their comps admin all round and need help.

Very true, the new guy is looking good for the future

 

[rulefan]

I'm going to the handicap secretary tomorrow to make a complaint but first just wanted clarification on a rule.

Player 'A' is due to tee off at 8:00. On arrival he notices the 8:15 group are one man down and decides to join them instead because 2 of them are his good mates.
This is a drawn and board competition.

What rule does this break please (oh, and we have no starter durring the winter)

[h=4]6-3b. Groups[/h]In stroke play, the competitor must remain throughout the round in the group arranged by the Committee, unless the Committee authorizes or ratifies a change.

 

[backwoodsman]

[h=4]6-3b. Groups[/h]In stroke play, the competitor must remain throughout the round in the group arranged by the Committee, unless the Committee authorizes or ratifies a change.

Pondering ...

Player A moves from group 1 to group 2.

Is clear to me that player A has changed group as under 6/3b and if not authorised, then would be DQ. But by allowing him to joining group 2, have the other members of group 2 also breached 6/3b ?? After all, they too are no longer in the same group as established by the committee. Not exactly the same group anyway.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Pondering ...

Player A moves from group 1 to group 2.

Is clear to me that player A has changed group as under 6/3b and if not authorised, then would be DQ. But by allowing him to joining group 2, have the other members of group 2 also breached 6/3b ?? After all, they too are no longer in the same group as established by the committee. Not exactly the same group anyway.

I suppose that would very much depend on what the third member told them when he joined them, unless the onus is on the other two to check that the change has been authorised by the committee, but in all honesty how many of us would do that?

In the circumstances described and looking at the tee times involved, is a two ball teeing off behind a three ball a good option? If it were changed, as appears here, so that the two ball is out early followed by the three ball, I wouldn't be marching off to the pro shop to check it was authorised, I'd just be grateful that common sense seemed to have been applied. That said, apart from the club championships none of our medal comps are drawn.

 

[chrisd]

At ours, It's not totally unusual for a player to switch groups on the morning of a comp but this is usually done in conjunction with the pro shop, maybe to balance a group where players have phoned in sick. My understanding is that they act for the committee when, and if, they do this.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

At ours, It's not totally unusual for a player to switch groups on the morning of a comp but this is usually done in conjunction with the pro shop, maybe to balance a group where players have phoned in sick. My understanding is that they act for the committee when, and if, they do this.

Thats exactly what happens with our comps as well.

 

[Colin L]

Pondering ...

Player A moves from group 1 to group 2.

Is clear to me that player A has changed group as under 6/3b and if not authorised, then would be DQ. But by allowing him to joining group 2, have the other members of group 2 also breached 6/3b ?? After all, they too are no longer in the same group as established by the committee. Not exactly the same group anyway.

The other two players have been left by player A in the group arranged by the Committee. Neither has taken any action to leave it, unlike A.

 

[rulefan]

At ours, It's not totally unusual for a player to switch groups on the morning of a comp but this is usually done in conjunction with the pro shop, maybe to balance a group where players have phoned in sick. My understanding is that they act for the committee when, and if, they do this.

For undrawn comps there is no problem. There is tacit authorisation by the committee.
For drawn comps, there should be a notification that the pro is authorised to do this, assuming he is not already an authorised member of the competition committee.

 

[Old Skier]

In the circumstances described and looking at the tee times involved, is a two ball teeing off behind a three ball a good option? If it were changed, as appears here, so that the two ball is out early followed by the three ball, I wouldn't be marching off to the pro shop to check it was authorised, I'd just be grateful that common sense seemed to have been applied. That said, apart from the club championships none of our medal comps are drawn.

I agree with the sentiment however as this is supposed to be a drawn comp I don't think the players should take it upon themselves to start regigging the start sheet just so mates can play together.

 

[hovis]

Well the plot has thickened. The guy won the comp!!!

 

[Fish]

Well the plot has thickened. The guy won the comp!!!

It would be interesting to know what kind of scores he puts in when not playing with his mates in drawn comps and then when he does and if there is any kind of pattern, or sharing of winning comps between them thinking their clever & spreading it amongst themselves.

I'd be concentrating on keeping them all well apart and see what happens.

 

[hovis]

It would be interesting to know what kind of scores he puts in when not playing with his mates in drawn comps and then when he does and if there is any kind of pattern, or sharing of winning comps between them thinking their clever & spreading it amongst themselves.

I'd be concentrating on keeping them all well apart and see what happens.

I have never seen him shoot handicap or better when outside his group. He shot 38 points off a 3/4 handicap yesterday in typhoon conditions!!! Not impossible i know but its a shame how it was predicted by most of us