Changing right to left handed

[Deleted member 16999]

Rather arrogant to say "it's been explained".

It hasn't been explained, you have simply put your point of view, which I disagree with.

It is clear as anything that the guy only took a right handed stance in order to get a drop from a staked tree when the ball was in a dodgy lie when it is already established that he would otherwise have played the shot left handed.

So you are saying there is no scenario on a golf course were this competent golfer may have switched to right hand inside 130yds unless he was trying to cheat.

 

[Three]

So you are saying there is no scenario on a golf course were this competent golfer may have switched to right hand inside 130yds unless he was trying to cheat.

Obviously that is a stupid assumption.

Even more so when I previously agreed with you that there are situations where playing an usual shot is not only justified, but perfectly necessary.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Obviously that is a stupid assumption.

Even more so when I previously agreed with you that there are situations where playing an usual shot is not only justified, but perfectly necessary.

As you're back to insults I'm out.

 

[Imurg]

So you are saying there is no scenario on a golf course were this competent golfer may have switched to right hand inside 130yds unless he was trying to cheat.

What is the reason for the switch in this scenario..?
He has to use an inappropriate club to play the shot that has little chance of success.
If he was 5 yards from the tree he would be swinging left-handed - agree?
So if he suddenly wants to swing right handed with a long club Jenna's to be doing it to get a free drop - why else.?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

What is the reason for the switch in this scenario..?
He has to use an inappropriate club to play the shot that has little chance of success.
If he was 5 yards from the tree he would be swinging left-handed - agree?
So if he suddenly wants to swing right handed with a long club Jenna's to be doing it to get a free drop - why else.?

I fully understand as does everyone that you can't do what happened in three's first thread, but in this scenario, the only reason it was stated he pulled him up was because he had been told he only played left handed from 130 and in and as this was at 90 he had no choice but to play it left handed, the guy was good enough to play the shot with either way, the guys on here, who are involved as referee's have quite clearly stated that as the guy is competent they would not deem it as unreasonable to play the shot either way and if playing it right handed gives a free drop then fine.
What we've got into is the guys thought process's and deciding he's a cheat, judging it on the rules he is perfectly within his rights.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I played a guy once who had half right handed clubs and half left handed .

He told me he had the unmentionables in his short irons so played 130 yds in left handed.

we did have one discussion about a staked tree where he wanted a drop form 90yds right handed but I said "no as you told me you play from 130 left handed " and the tree did not interfere with his swing this way.

Handicaps don't distinguish by dexterity only scores.

Nowhere did it say he was going to play the shot the other way round once he took the drop.

Sorry my bad

 

[clubchamp98]

He doesn't have to justify it at all, the guy could play left and right handed, it's upto him which way he chooses to play any shot on the course at any distance, his opponent is stating "you said everything 130 in is left handed, therefore as it's inside 130 you CAN only play left handed"
He's making his own rules up.

thats not true he asked for a free drop but I said No .
But he took it anyway
nobody can insist you do anything , if they break the rules they pay the penalty .
My opinion in a golf match is only advisory.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

thats not true he asked for a free drop but I said No .
But he took it anyway
nobody can insist you do anything , if they break the rules they pay the penalty .
My opinion in a golf match is only advisory.

"no as you told me you play from 130 left handed "

That's the direct quote from your first post on the subject, I interpreted that as your reason for saying no was because it was inside the 130 and you expected all shots inside that distance to be played left handed.

 

[clubchamp98]

But insisting when a an opponent plays left or right handed isn't.

Just for you 135yds, is 5yards idiotic? Where's the line.

Obviously as you have no sensible reply I'll take it I've proved the point.

It would be polite if you remembered it was not me who mentioned the 130yds and the insistance he HAD to play left handed from there on in.

Why can't you understand I never insisted on anything .
it was him that said " I shank everything right handed 130 yds a in so I play left handed from that yardage"

he he asked me for a drop and I said no.

Thats my opinion not an insistence.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why can't you understand I never insisted on anything .
it was him that said " I shank everything right handed 130 yds a in so I play left handed from that yardage"

he he asked me for a drop and I said no.

Thats my opinion not an insistence.

same answer as above mate.

 

[user2010]

I thought you was "out" on this thread?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I thought you was "out" on this thread?

It's good manners to answer somebody when asked a direct question.

 

[user2010]

:blah::blah::blah:

 

[clubchamp98]

same answer as above mate.

If we were playing a match and you landed in a rabbit scrape and asked me for a drop and I said no
would you take any notice
Would you do what you thought was allowed and sort it later.

i can't insist you do anything you are in charge of your own decisions.

 

[Three]

It's good manners to answer somebody when asked a direct question.

Do you understand that a golfer cannot take an unusual choice of shot purely for the sake of getting a free drop?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why can't you accept that the guys on here who officiate at events do not see this scenario as an unusual choice of shot, your's was, this wasn't.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If we were playing a match and you landed in a rabbit scrape and asked me for a drop and I said no
would you take any notice
Would you do what you thought was allowed and sort it later.

i can't insist you do anything you are in charge of your own decisions.

Play 2 balls and sort it later.

 

[clubchamp98]

Play 2 balls and sort it later.

Thats the correct answer as I can't insist you or anyone else does what I think.

But and humour me here if you had said to me on the first tee "I hope I don't go in any rabbit scrapes as I always have to play them with my putter."

Would i I be wrong to expect you to play it with your putter?

expect not insist.

i know it's silly but it's not my statement it was yours.

 

[Three]

Why can't you accept that the guys on here who officiate at events do not see this scenario as an unusual choice of shot, your's was, this wasn't.

Because I have the capacity to think for myself.
Based on the previous email I received from the R&A, I believe that the guy playing right handed PURELY to try and get a free drop, should have been denied.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yes I agree you might, but I'd also not jump to the conclusion that you were questioning my integrity if I didn't as some have on here.