Celtic

[BristolMike]

You arent going to win this one Mike, but you have made your point and its time to leave it at that and agree to disagree.

Personally I think you have to applaud Celtic. it is a great achievement at any level (although id have a little chortle if they slipped up today)
but they do need an effective opposition to keep it interesting (Not talking political here
ideally you need 3 or 4 teams in with a shout, otherwise it will end up as a procession and each triumph will be slightly devalued

Straw poll for the happiest most contented , most secure manager in UK football ? has to be Brendan Rodgers, I can do that, Gis a job

Ha I know there's no opening people's eyes sometimes. I've given credit where it's due and said it's an achievement, but just not as special as when Arsenal did it (hate to admit that) or if it was in a major European league. Even leagues where one team generally wins it's never the total domination as it is there.

Brendan Rodgers must be loving life ATM

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think you have totally missed FD's point, please read her post again and remember that this is a post on Scottish football.
Nothing whatsoever to do with Spurs, Arsenal, Bournmouth etc.

It is impossible to have a Scottish Football thread on here without the usual suspects waving their willies all over the shop about how wonderful the EPL is compared to the SPFL.

For those who deal in facts.
The only competitive game played this year between teams of the two leagues resulted in 1-1 and 3-3 draws between Man City and Celtic in the Champions League.

Can't judge using one off games like that - Barcelona lost to Rostov one year that doesn't mean Rostov would win La Liga

Celtic have done very well - winning any league unbeaten is an achievement even if the other teams are weak in comparison

 

[Backache]

Ha I know there's no opening people's eyes sometimes. I've given credit where it's due and said it's an achievement, but just not as special as when Arsenal did it (hate to admit that) or if it was in a major European league. Even leagues where one team generally wins it's never the total domination as it is there.

Brendan Rodgers must be loving life ATM

Arsenal got knocked out of the League cup ( to Middlesboro) and the FA cup . Celtic are unbeaten domestically and against all UK opposition. Times have moved on players have improved Toure was a stalwart of the Arsenal side but can only get on the bench for Celtic. I suspect this Celtic team would beat that Arsenal team.

 

[BristolMike]

Arsenal got knocked out of the League cup ( to Middlesboro) and the FA cup . Celtic are unbeaten domestically and against all UK opposition. Times have moved on players have improved Toure was a stalwart of the Arsenal side but can only get on the bench for Celtic. I suspect this Celtic team would beat that Arsenal team.

You think think that this Celtic team would beat the arsenal invincibles team? Please say you're joking

 

[Backache]

You think think that this Celtic team would beat the arsenal invincibles team? Please say you're joking

Clearly it can't be proven either way, but with the overall improvement in quality and tactics since the early 2000's probably.

(Mind you if you don't take into account changes in quality over time the Lisbon Lions would have trounced both.)

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I didn't miss the point at all. You were lauding Celtic for going unbeaten all season, but in reality they should do. They have no competition as every other team is league one at best. It's not a question of the standard of the EPL v SPL, it's a question of the competitiveness of the respective leagues. Celtic have no serious competition, they shouldn't even be in the same league as most of that league. All other European leagues have competitive teams, Scotland just doesn't.

Woosh.

 

[BristolMike]

Clearly it can't be proven either way, but with the overall improvement in quality and tactics since the early 2000's probably.

I think that Arsenal team would probably beat that Celtic team now 😂

 

[FairwayDodger]

Its like jumping on the next "I broke 100" thread to let the poster know how crap he is...

Very boring and unbecoming.

If you want to have an EPL v spl thread go and start one but you'll find very little argument from anyone up here.

 

[BristolMike]

Its like jumping on the next "I broke 100" thread to let the poster know how crap he is...

Very boring and unbecoming.

If you want to have an EPL v spl thread go and start one but you'll find very little argument from anyone up here.

I didn't bring up this Celtic team beating the arsenals invincibles team, it was the man who's obviously been drinking all night with his crazy talk.

My point is valid though, yes it is an achievement, but it's a lot easier to do than anywhere else in Europe due to the terrible standard of opposition

 

[User62651]

You think think that this Celtic team would beat the arsenal invincibles team? Please say you're joking

Arsenal did play Celtic that season (a much weaker Celtic side than today's) in a friendly, ended up 1-1. Tells you all you need to know.

 

[BristolMike]

Arsenal did play Celtic that season (a much weaker Celtic side than today's) in a friendly, ended up 1-1. Tells you all you need to know.

A friendly as you stated. You genuinely can't believe this Celtic team is anywhere near the same league as that Arsenal team.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Clearly it can't be proven either way, but with the overall improvement in quality and tactics since the early 2000's probably.

(Mind you if you don't take into account changes in quality over time the Lisbon Lions would have trounced both.)

I loved the old quote from I think it was Bertie Auld when asked if the Lisbon lions team could beat the current Celtic team.

'I think we could, but some of us are getting on a bit now.'

 

[Backache]

A friendly as you stated. You genuinely can't believe this Celtic team is anywhere near the same league as that Arsenal team.

I think you 'll find they play over the border about 400 miles away . Quality wise , a close call though both teams pretty strong but Celtic achieved greater domestic domination(assuming they win their next two games)

 

[BristolMike]

I think you 'll find they play over the border about 400 miles away . Quality wise , a close call though both teams pretty strong but Celtic achieved greater domestic domination(assuming they win their next two games)

You are the reason these threads descend into chaos. You're completely delusional. That team would still beat this Celtic team now. You think a Celtic team with Scott Brown in MF, Scott Sinclair and Dembele as your best players are comparible with a team with Viera, Ljungberg, Sol Campbell, Ashley cole, Bergkamp, Henry. Not one currently Celtic player would even make the squad.

Anyone without Scottish bias will admit that. I know you're defensive about your league, but please make it a rational discussion not this irrational rubbish.

 

[Backache]

You are the reason these threads descend into chaos. You're completely delusional. That team would still beat this Celtic team now. You think a Celtic team with Scott Brown in MF, Scott Sinclair and Dembele as your best players are comparible with a team with Viera, Ljungberg, Sol Campbell, Ashley cole, Bergkamp, Henry. Not one currently Celtic player would even make the squad.

Anyone without Scottish bias will admit that. I know you're defensive about your league, but please make it a rational discussion not this irrational rubbish.

It is not my league and I am not a Celtic fan, I live in Scotland and have been to see them play a few times and have to acknowledge their quality.

As one Celtic squad player actually made the Arsenal first team comments about not making the squad are clearly misguided.
Two good teams lets celebrate both achievements, one is historic and one contemporary.

 

[BristolMike]

It is not my league and I am not a Celtic fan, I live in Scotland and have been to see them play a few times and have to acknowledge their quality.

As one Celtic squad player actually made the Arsenal first team comments about not making the squad are clearly misguided.
Two good teams lets celebrate both achievements, one is historic and one contemporary.

Youre the one who said the Celtic team would beat the arsenal team. That was just a crazy comment.

who do you think would make the squad and who would they replace.....just out of interest.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

You are the reason these threads descend into chaos. .

No!. The reason is people not understanding that sometimes, other peoples views are not going to change, no matter what you say or do.
so at that point, rather than repeating the same argument ad nauseum, you need to stop, agree to disagree, and move on.

And so it is written
Thus endeth todays sermon from The Rev Fragger

Let me hear you say AMEN Brothers and Sisters :thup:

 

[ruff-driver]

No!. The reason is people not understanding that sometimes, other peoples views are not going to change, no matter what you say or do.
so at that point, rather than repeating the same argument ad nauseum, you need to stop, agree to disagree, and move on.

And so it is written
Thus endeth todays sermon from The Rev Fragger

Let me hear you say AMEN Brothers and Sisters :thup:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I-0 to Celtic on the hour, quite a good game by the sound of it.
Don's 6-0 up on the hour v St Johnstone [sorry SILH]

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Youre the one who said the Celtic team would beat the arsenal team. That was just a crazy comment.

who do you think would make the squad and who would they replace.....just out of interest.

Rodgers for Wenger