British Masters player support

[patricks148]

I don’t think there is real passion for players to win their home Open unless it’s the top event in that country - the top players at times don’t even come over for the PGA which is supposed to be the flagship. You may get a few extra home players playing in them - Rory hasn’t played in every Irish Open for example and now he is no longer hosting then I suspect he will pick and choose when to play it but I guess when for example a lot of the Scots become passionate about their home Open it’s because that’s the top event they can enter unless they are top 50/75 etc

Most of those home opens will be the top completion in that country with the exception maybe of Scotland and the Irish when the open goes there in the next year. saw and interview with PH on sky a few weeks ago and in that he said he wanted to win the Irish open almost as much as the Open

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Most of those home opens will be the top completion in that country with the exception maybe of Scotland and the Irish when the open goes there in the next year. saw and interview with PH on sky a few weeks ago and in that he said he wanted to win the Irish open almost as much as the Open

“Almost as much”

Only have to look at the start list for the British Masters and it looks like a lot of Englishman plus currently the top ranked couple and a few others

Out of the top Europeans it’s only a handful not playing - Rory , Stenson , Noren , Poulter , Rahm , Hatton and Garcia - so only really Poulter as an a Englishman not turning up and you can see why they won’t be because of a very long season and especially last couple of months.

If there was to be an English Open would it get more interest ? Doubtful

 

[patricks148]

“Almost as much”

Only have to look at the start list for the British Masters and it looks like a lot of Englishman plus currently the top ranked couple and a few others

Out of the top Europeans it’s only a handful not playing - Rory , Stenson , Noren , Poulter , Rahm , Hatton and Garcia - so only really Poulter as an a Englishman not turning up and you can see why they won’t be because of a very long season and especially last couple of months.

If there was to be an English Open would it get more interest ? Doubtful

i bet there would if it was 10 Million prize money

 

[Deleted member 15344]

i bet there would if it was 10 Million prize money

But that’s not going to happen though is it and if you did start offering that sort of money then the US players would follow and then all those players outside top 75 start to miss out

But it’s all digressing from your initial point that the English should support their home events when actually they do and indeed more of them play in the events that than the other home countries players

 

[Tongo]

What's the score with the tournament beyond this year? Does it revert back to Poulter hosting it? Or will there be new hosts? Or will the tournament disappear from the calendar?

 

[patricks148]

But that’s not going to happen though is it and if you did start offering that sort of money then the US players would follow and then all those players outside top 75 start to miss out

But it’s all digressing from your initial point that the English should support their home events when actually they do and indeed more of them play in the events that than the other home countries players

Maybe Mr Bamford could step in ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

What's the score with the tournament beyond this year? Does it revert back to Poulter hosting it? Or will there be new hosts? Or will the tournament disappear from the calendar?

Good question. I'm pretty sure it doesn't revert back to Poulter again and they'd need to get some faces to front it. Fleetwood would be an obvious candidate but where to host it? I'm not sure this spot in the calendar does it any favours and this year suffers because of the RC and I can understand some players simply not having the energy after the last few weeks to commit to another event. The purse doesn't really lure many either. If it doesn't get some backing it'll disappear for sure

 

[Deleted member 15344]

What's the score with the tournament beyond this year? Does it revert back to Poulter hosting it? Or will there be new hosts? Or will the tournament disappear from the calendar?

Well no plans for next years calendar but with changes to the US schedule it may still be around but with Sky hosting it maybe ?

 

[patricks148]

Maybe if they had it a flat Parkland course with no rough or trouble of the tee, Phil and all the other American RC players would come over and play in it and if you gave Gimmies on the greens Rory would be a shoe in

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe Mr Bamford could step in ?

I suspect he had prob got his eye on empty slot around the WGC’s - not really any of the other prime slots available

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Good question. I'm pretty sure it doesn't revert back to Poulter again and they'd need to get some faces to front it. Fleetwood would be an obvious candidate but where to host it?

Fleetwood would be great choice, hope that happens

 

[Qwerty]

Fleetwood would be an obvious candidate but where to host it?

It’s a no brainer..!

https://www.fleetwoodgolf.co.uk/

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I’m not sure if the current crop would take it on tbh - I can see Fleetwood looking to play more in the states next year so would be surprised if he would get involved in hosting an event

The one Comp that was rumoured to return is the World Cup so maybe that would fill the gap - next year the Irish Open is doing the pros hosting each year with McGinley next year

 

[TheDiablo]

But that’s not going to happen though is it and if you did start offering that sort of money then the US players would follow and then all those players outside top 75 start to miss out

But it’s all digressing from your initial point that the English should support their home events when actually they do and indeed more of them play in the events that than the other home countries players

Not really correct is it? Name the last time the Top 5 Englishmen all played in the same event on English soil.

I'll help you with other countries. Ireland - 2018, Scotland - 2018.

Fact is 3 of our top 5 golfers aren't playing this week. Considering we have 2 events per year that's really, really poor.

Surprised you aren't being more critical of Poulter - it seems he is doing the exact thing you've spent years berating Casey for. Using the ET simply when he needs them, not supporting them on key events and playing a US schedule + Rolex events

 

[Garush34]

I’m not sure if the current crop would take it on tbh - I can see Fleetwood looking to play more in the states next year so would be surprised if he would get involved in hosting an event

The one Comp that was rumoured to return is the World Cup so maybe that would fill the gap - next year the Irish Open is doing the pros hosting each year with McGinley next year

The golf world cup is still running, has been since 1954 and is played this year in Melbourne. Or do you mean it is rumoured to return to England next year? https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/isps-handa-melbourne-world-cup-of-golf.html

 

[patricks148]

just went though the ET website and

All the top Irish players played the Irish open, so did all the top french players in the French open and all the top Spanish players in the Spanish open

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not really correct is it? Name the last time the Top 5 Englishmen all played in the same event on English soil.

I'll help you with other countries. Ireland - 2018, Scotland - 2018.

Fact is 3 of our top 5 golfers aren't playing this week. Considering we have 2 events per year that's really, really poor.

Surprised you aren't being more critical of Poulter - it seems he is doing the exact thing you've spent years berating Casey for. Using the ET simply when he needs them, not supporting them on key events and playing a US schedule + Rolex events

The guys play on two tours , they need to pick and choose their events depending on their schedule- Poulter I believe played most of the summer on the ET and has played a total of 7 events not including the majors and WGC - Casey has played 3 and hasn’t played one British Masters I believe where as Poulter has hosted one and also played in another. Casey also at one stage chucked in his ET membership - There can never be any comparison.

The players aren’t robots - they need time to relax and spend time with their families - Poulters time is now , he has just finished a very intense period so now it’s time for his to spend with his family as opposed to playing just a regular ET event - it’s not a “key event” it’s a small ET event at the back end of the season whilst most people take a break before the season ending comps - in the upcoming Masters out of the top ten ranked players 5 are English. They can’t all play every event - I suspect if the British ( not English ) Masters was held in June you would prob get a more heavy loaded field but when do you want these guys to take a break ? Even more so when they play on two tours and a lot live in the US and have young families

 

[Deleted member 15344]

just went though the ET website and

All the top Irish players played the Irish open, so did all the top french players in the French open and all the top Spanish players in the Spanish open

When most of them only have ET membership they don’t exactly have other options - Garcia I think missed the Spainsh Open and its all down to the timings - those events are mid summer. If a player is a member of both tours then they can’t play all the comps on both tours. And what English Comp have they failed to support ?

 

[Dasit]

British Masters is a bit of a mickey mouse tour event.

At a bad time of year, a low ranking event.

Top tour players have real lives too, and very few weekends off. They don't owe people appearances just because the event is in the UK.

 

[Steve Bamford]

British Masters is a bit of a mickey mouse tour event.

At a bad time of year, a low ranking event.

Top tour players have real lives too, and very few weekends off. They don't owe people appearances just because the event is in the UK.

Agreed. For the time of season I actually think the field is a decent standard. Yes Casey is going for the $ across Malaysia / South Korea and China, with Poults joining him across Korea/China. But all-in-all players have pressures to keep cards across both the PGA Tour / European Tours. Many of the elite players will play Rolex Series events only on the ET, which this isn't. Both the IO and SO were.