Britain’s Got Talent

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Ben Elton wrote a book (albeit a work of fiction) based on a bet that a character very similar to Simon Cowell could get anyone through to the final rounds of an X-Factor style competition based purely on how they promoted the back story, how the judged reacted to a performance, when they appeared on the show etc. Was a very interesting read. OK it may be a total work of fiction but the ideas put forward about how audience voting could be manipulated by the way in which the show was produced (coupled with strategic press leaks to either enhance or diminish an act's popularity) was an interesting and believable premise.

Interesting but you'd think with his connections there would be an element of truth in the concept. I am a cynical old man at the best of times and to be honest these back stories do nothing for me and wouldn't make me vote for an act (if I was ever going to and that is not happening). I want to see an act stand and fall by their performance alone and not with the boost of a sob tale. That would never have happened in Hughie Green's day on Opportunity Knocks
 
So you are saying that all those who watch these shows are ignorant?

They're ignorant to the much better entertainment available, yes.

If you have avoided them how do you know they are “bottom feeding” and nice to see that you are judging people ignorant for watching them

I avoid them after trying to watch them previously. Sample - deem as worthless TV, peddling sob stories instead of worthwhile TV - avoid.

I find this to be true of most TV broadcast between 6pm and 10pm on BBC1 and ITV on Saturday nights - the time the proles sit down to watch TV the most, presumably.
 
They're ignorant to the much better entertainment available, yes.



I avoid them after trying to watch them previously. Sample - deem as worthless TV, peddling sob stories instead of worthwhile TV - avoid.

I find this to be true of most TV broadcast between 6pm and 10pm on BBC1 and ITV on Saturday nights - the time the proles sit down to watch TV the most, presumably.

What are proles ?

The thing with entertainment is it covers a very wide range of tastes - some will like some programs some will like others , just because someone likes a Program you don't doesnt mean they are ignorant "to better" entertainment because its all about peoples personal taste - i have no doubt there is something you watch that i find awful but that doesnt mean i call you ignorant. Its the same with music and sports etc - thankfully because we are all wired differently we all have differing tastes. BGT is a program you dont like - millions around the country do like it hence its a very successful show. But dont insult people based on the telly show they watch
 
They're ignorant to the much better entertainment available, yes.



I avoid them after trying to watch them previously. Sample - deem as worthless TV, peddling sob stories instead of worthwhile TV - avoid.

I find this to be true of most TV broadcast between 6pm and 10pm on BBC1 and ITV on Saturday nights - the time the proles sit down to watch TV the most, presumably.


Why are some people on these forums so obnoxious?
There is no need to, it's not difficult to voice an opinion without trying to belittle a whole swath of the population and therefore make yourself feel a little superior.
 
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What are proles ?

The thing with entertainment is it covers a very wide range of tastes - some will like some programs some will like others , just because someone likes a Program you don't doesnt mean they are ignorant "to better" entertainment because its all about peoples personal taste - i have no doubt there is something you watch that i find awful but that doesnt mean i call you ignorant. Its the same with music and sports etc - thankfully because we are all wired differently we all have differing tastes. BGT is a program you dont like - millions around the country do like it hence its a very successful show. But dont insult people based on the telly show they watch

Why are some people on these forums so obnoxious?
There is no need to, it's not difficult to voice an opinion without trying to belittle a whole swath of the population and therefore make yourself feel a little superior.

Why are people so precious about someone not liking what they do? I voiced my opinion on a public forum. Just because it doesn't marry up with your opinion. Jeez.
 
Why are people so precious about someone not liking what they do? I voiced my opinion on a public forum. Just because it doesn't marry up with your opinion. Jeez.

Because your opinion was insulting towards people - assigned to voicing an opinion and free speech must come respect , when you start to throw insults at people and insulting judgements then you will get people reacting. You can have an opinion on the program - no one is going to like everything but don’t make judgments about the people that watch the programs you don’t like.
 
Because your opinion was insulting towards people - assigned to voicing an opinion and free speech must come respect , when you start to throw insults at people and insulting judgements then you will get people reacting. You can have an opinion on the program - no one is going to like everything but don’t make judgments about the people that watch the programs you don’t like.

You've made judgements on me in the past based on opinions I have and the football team I support. Be consistent.
 
They're ignorant to the much better entertainment available, yes.



I avoid them after trying to watch them previously. Sample - deem as worthless TV, peddling sob stories instead of worthwhile TV - avoid.

I find this to be true of most TV broadcast between 6pm and 10pm on BBC1 and ITV on Saturday nights - the time the proles sit down to watch TV the most, presumably.

Proles is a derogatory term. No need for that.

In regards reality tv, I am of much the same opinion. It was a good concept when it came out, but now is done for the lowest common denominator so as to capture as large and audience as cheaply as possible.

I dont envisage their being reruns reruns of it in 20 years.
 
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Well that's the exact same thing said two different ways.

Not at all, Proles is derogatory for working class.

Common denominator used in my example is simply they way a tv company will aim a product at as many people as possible. I made no judgement on the people or their viewing choices.
 
Why are people so precious about someone not liking what they do? I voiced my opinion on a public forum. Just because it doesn't marry up with your opinion. Jeez.


Voicing an opinion is one thing (and I happen to agree with you regarding the quality of the programming), but you don't have to insult people in order to do it.
 
Not at all, Proles is derogatory for working class.

Common denominator used in my example is simply they way a tv company will aim a product at as many people as possible. I made no judgement on the people or their viewing choices.

Excellent spin, but no. Lowest common denominator is a term used to denote the lowest levels of society.
 
Excellent spin, but no. Lowest common denominator is a term used to denote the lowest levels of society.

Not spin at all, reread my point. I state that its to capture the largest audience. I don't comment on said audience. Just because you associate a term with that meaning, doesn't mean everyone else does.

edit, just did a google. I wouldn't refer to the urban dictionary to define a word.
 
Not spin at all, reread my point. I state that its to capture the largest audience. I don't comment on said audience. Just because you associate a term with that meaning, doesn't mean everyone else does.

edit, just did a google. I wouldn't refer to the urban dictionary to define a word.

You don't understand the term and you're using it incorrectly. No biggie, you've clarified your meaning anyway.
 
Just to spice things up a little. The Cambridge Dictionary may help in clearing this up. Quote apt that the quote is about watching TV.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lowest-common-denominator


Can someone pass the popcorn?

I like the 3rd definition......

Appears to say what i said. Criticising the product (BGT), not those watching it :D

Anyways, the sun is shining and i'm off work for 3 days. Lets return to this in the winter when we all need a barny to pass the time!:swing:
 
I like the 3rd definition......

Appears to say what i said. Criticising the product (BGT), not those watching it :D

Anyways, the sun is shining and i'm off work for 3 days. Lets return to this in the winter when we all need a barny to pass the time!:swing:

Good call! Finished early, off to the pub with my lad and then having a firepit BBQ after... 25 degrees here in Nottingham!:cheers:
 
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