Bridgestone Golf

[nemicu]

Yes

I didn't say it needs branding to be conforming.

If all balls were blank then you wouldn't be able to tell which balls were legal and which ones were illegal as there would be no way to differentiate them from one another. So I could easily pick up a few nonconforming blank balls and play without anybody knowing.

So you are saying a ball DOESN'T need branding to conform? In other words, directly the opposite to what you originally said when I asked if a ball needs to be branded to conform and you replied, quote: 'yes'.
Similarly, it's also possible to pick up a handful of branded non-conforming balls. Plain balls can also possess small moulding stamps (as many do) that are not readily visible at address but are capable of being used to determine which type they are and whether they conform or not.

 

[BTatHome]

I think you'll find your talking to two different people, as your quotes show!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So you are saying a ball DOESN'T need branding to conform? In other words, directly the opposite to what you originally said when I asked if a ball needs to be branded to conform and you replied, quote: 'yes'.
Similarly, it's also possible to pick up a handful of branded non-conforming balls. Plain balls can also possess small moulding stamps (as many do) that are not readily visible at address but are capable of being used to determine which type they are and whether they conform or not.

So what's to stop non conforming balls being stamped with the same small moulding ?

The branding on most golf balls is very small - it can't really be that much of an issue because everyone covers balls with their own pictures or dots or lines etc so no ball is pure white all the way around

 

[nemicu]

I think you'll find your talking to two different people, as your quotes show!

Agreed. And I think you'll find the correct spelling is *you're* to the the two different people in *your* quote. Looks like all three of us are completely wrong.

 

[Blue in Munich]

they also invented the Pro V1…

This is codswallop!

I suspect Lump knows as much Foxholer, he just couldn't be bothered to argue…...

 

[hovis]

Agreed. And I think you'll find the correct spelling is *you're* to the the two different people in *your* quote. Looks like all three of us are completely wrong.

Meeeow, saucer of milk to table one please!

 

[nemicu]

So what's to stop non conforming balls being stamped with the same small moulding ?

The branding on most golf balls is very small - it can't really be that much of an issue because everyone covers balls with their own pictures or dots or lines etc so no ball is pure white all the way around

Again, why would any manufacturer stamp both conforming and non-conroming balls the same if they intended to market a plain ball? Granted, it isn't much of an issue but it looks like you've used your own logic to explain the reason why plain balls can be produced if they wanted to.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Plain balls won't happen. Accept it and move on. Whole host of reasons why, from the legalities of conforming or non-conforming, potential issues with packaging during manufacturing (how do you know which type is which, as most have numerous balls in their range) through to advertising and product placement. How much free publicity did Nike get for their swoosh with that dying ball of Woods dropping at Augusta

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Again, why would any manufacturer stamp both conforming and non-conroming balls the same if they intended to market a plain ball? Granted, it isn't much of an issue but it looks like you've used your own logic to explain the reason why plain balls can be produced if they wanted to.

Of course they can be produced if they wanted too - no one has said they can't

They just won't as I very much doubt there is a market for them and when manufactures make something I'm sure they will want their stamp on. It

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I suspect Lump knows as much Foxholer, he just couldn't be bothered to argue…...

Claws are out tonight for sure

 

[nemicu]

Plain balls won't happen. Accept it and move on. Whole host of reasons why, from the legalities of conforming or non-conforming, potential issues with packaging during manufacturing (how do you know which type is which, as most have numerous balls in their range) through to advertising and product placement. How much free publicity did Nike get for their swoosh with that dying ball of Woods dropping at Augusta

Is that the same Nike that made a black ball that made any branding difficult to show up on TV? You're probably right that most companies (especially Nike) are attention whores at the best of times, but for us humble folks who are not contracted or paid to endorse any product while playing golf, we can but hope of a ball one day that is easy on the eye.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is that the same Nike that made a black ball that made any branding difficult to show up on TV? You're probably right that most companies (especially Nike) are attention whores at the best of times, but for us humble folks who are not contracted or paid to endorse any product while playing golf, we can but hope of a ball one day that is easy on the eye.

I'm going to take a wild guess that the brands get more money from the "paying public" than they do from stars they give balls too

So I'm going to guess also they would make what the public want - so with no company making plain balls I'm thinking that means plain balls aren't really what humble folk want

In fact I reckon most people actually want the branding on - but just a guess ( based on you are the first person I have ever heard asking for a plain ball )

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'd still love to test a bucket of plain balls and see if anyone from Cat 1 up to high handicappers can differentiate accurately one product from another. I bet many wouldn't which is why advertising and therefore logo's and product names are essential. If you are keen to play a white ball simply put the non-product side down on the tee and green and look down on plain white dimples.

 

[nemicu]

I'm going to take a wild guess that the brands get more money from the "paying public" than they do from stars they give balls too

So I'm going to guess also they would make what the public want - so with no company making plain balls I'm thinking that means plain balls aren't really what humble folk want

In fact I reckon most people actually want the branding on - but just a guess ( based on you are the first person I have ever heard asking for a plain ball )

Yup, I'm a bit weird like that. I also don't own a GPS device, don't take a mobile phone on the golf course and rarely if ever believe anything a rep says.

 

[Lump]

I suspect Lump knows as much Foxholer, he just couldn't be bothered to argue…...

Bridgestone took Titleist to court over 10 patent infringements…. and won. The B330 ball design was stolen from Bridgestone and rebranded as a ProV1 for all intent and purposes.

I've been a member on here long enough to take anything said with a pinch of salt, keyboard warriors a plenty.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yup, I'm a bit weird like that. I also don't own a GPS device, don't take a mobile phone on the golf course and rarely if ever believe anything a rep says.

GPS are really useful and always got to be contactable

Reps have been good to me in the past so quite happy to trust them

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Bridgestone took Titleist to court over 10 patent infringements…. and won. The B330 ball design was stolen from Bridgestone and rebranded as a ProV1 for all intent and purposes.

I've been a member on here long enough to take anything said with a pinch of salt, keyboard warriors a plenty.

Do they still make the payments ? Some say they don't some say they do - tried to ask today and they wouldn't tell

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Big fan of GPS devices but each to their own on that one and think its been debated long and hard. Most reps I know have been good to me

 

[hovis]

Actually i belive brigestone do make nike balls because even my car pulls to the right too. Must be in the rubber

 

[nemicu]

Bridgestone took Titleist to court over 10 patent infringements…. and won. The B330 ball design was stolen from Bridgestone and rebranded as a ProV1 for all intent and purposes.

I've been a member on here long enough to take anything said with a pinch of salt, keyboard warriors a plenty.

No they didn't. Bridgestone and Titleist settled out of court. The only real winner was the company who retained their status as the best selling ball worldwide and is still making the ball claimed to have intellectual rights by Callaway and Bridgestone - both of whom have had appeals overruled and to whom Titleist no longer owe one penny.
Just goes to show you read what you like, but it ain't always true.