Brexit Two Months On

[Doon frae Troon]

So devoid of any coherent plan the Tories beg the SNP to help them out.:lol:


http://www.scottishconservatives.com/2016/09/snp-must-explain-how-it-will-make-brexit-work/

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Not at all.

Merely asking the SNP led administration to stop acting like a bunch of truculent teenagers who didn't get their own way. Time for the grown-ups now to accept the country's (UK) decision and make a success of this.

And I speak as one who was active in the Remain campaign.

 

[SocketRocket]

Did you actually read that article Doom? It is very critical of Scotland.

 

[fundy]

that chip get any bigger Doon lol

 

[Alex1975]

Ahh what a shame... since the remoaners stopped crying things have been going so well. It must be very frustrating to have got it so wrong in the aftermath of the vote. I get why you would attempt to have a little cry but.... Lets carry on and make things work.

I work in finance and we literally cannot keep up with demand for high capital cost projects for office space refurbishment and new offices.

 

[Val]

Did you actually read that article Doom? It is very critical of Scotland.

SR, come on man .............. Doon + facts rarely appear on the same post. He'll probably not answer your question.

 

[User62651]

I'm sick of politics in UK/Scotland! These elected people are there to serve us the electorate yet most of them seem to serve themselves.

SNP lost 2014 referendum and can't accept result. So many ifs buts and maybe's 2 years later and worse than ever BUT more people are voting for them than before and until SNP + allies have less MSP's in Holyrood so they can't get a majority on issues it's not going to go away so we are stuck with this bickering/indecision for at least 5 years more until next Holyrood election.

EU referendum went 'out' yet masses of people and politicians already wont accept it as a democratic decision. Doesn't matter if Brexit hasn't been worked through in detail, the decision is made, get on with it. Even more ifs buts and maybes and I don't think Cameron and Co. should have gambled on it but they did and they couldn't convince sufficient people so it is what it is, me move forwards.

One of these votes wen't my way, one didn't but I accept that democratic process, why can't others?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Did you actually read that article Doom? It is very critical of Scotland.

Did you actually read who wrote it

The headline just amused me.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'm sick of politics in UK/Scotland! These elected people are there to serve us the electorate yet most of them seem to serve themselves.

SNP lost 2014 referendum and can't accept result. So many ifs buts and maybe's 2 years later and worse than ever BUT more people are voting for them than before and until SNP + allies have less MSP's in Holyrood so they can't get a majority on issues it's not going to go away so we are stuck with this bickering/indecision for at least 5 years more until next Holyrood election.

EU referendum went 'out' yet masses of people and politicians already wont accept it as a democratic decision. Doesn't matter if Brexit hasn't been worked through in detail, the decision is made, get on with it. Even more ifs buts and maybes and I don't think Cameron and Co. should have gambled on it but they did and they couldn't convince sufficient people so it is what it is, me move forwards.

One of these votes wen't my way, one didn't but I accept that democratic process, why can't others?

Unless you missed it the N in SNP stands for National - and their raison d'etre is independence. They have accepted the referendum result but will never give up on their ultimate goal - and why would you expect them to?

If the Scottish electorate get brassed off with the SNP continually 'going on' and working towards achieving independence then they will stop voting for them.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It's kind of a fair point. The SNP government do prefer to act like they're in opposition rather than taking responsibility and governing. However there's a lot of brass neck for the tories to be making this point given the omnishambles they have orchestrated over brexit and their general cluelessness over how to proceed.

Incidentally, there is a difference between disagreeing with the vote and not accepting it. We are where we are etc but as time passes and the specifics slowly emerge I am only more convinced we're going down the wrong road.

 

[jp5]

One of these votes wen't my way, one didn't but I accept that democratic process, why can't others?

I presume because one has a definite outcome and the other doesn't!

 

[USER1999]

So devoid of any coherent plan the Tories beg the SNP to help them out.:lol:


http://www.scottishconservatives.com/2016/09/snp-must-explain-how-it-will-make-brexit-work/

Strangely, I didn't read that as 'begging the SNP to help out', more asking them what their plan is for Scotland, given Brexit is going to happen, which you would have thought might be important to them.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Just for the record for all the out of touch folks who prattle on about the 2014 vote.
Since 2014
Within hours we have had EVEL, basically making Westminster a two tier parliament.
We have had the renewal of Trident
We have had Brexit.

Scottish people did not vote for the first two and buy a large majority the voted against Brexit.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Strangely, I didn't read that as 'begging the SNP to help out', more asking them what their plan is for Scotland, given Brexit is going to happen, which you would have thought might be important to them.

:lol: I think you will find that they have got a really big plan.

 

[MarkE]

Two months on and the Leave side are trying to get on with it. Remainers are still looking for any negative news to bang on about, willing us to fail.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

:lol: I think you will find that they have got a really big plan.

You talk about the UK having no plan for Brexit but what plan have the SNP got for independance?

 

[Paperboy]

You talk about the UK having no plan for Brexit but what plan have the SNP got for independance?

Shussshhh Gordon your Scottish surely you know the plan!!

 

[ColchesterFC]

Since 2014
Within hours we have had EVEL, basically making Westminster a two tier parliament.
We have had the renewal of Trident
We have had Brexit.

Scottish people did not vote for the first two and buy a large majority the voted against Brexit.

I don't recall English people getting a vote on EVEL or renewal of trident so I don't understand what your point is.

And as far as your third point the Scottish people voted by a large majority - to use your own words - to stay as part of the UK and therefore the SNP should accept the result of a UK vote to leave the EU rather than keep pushing for a new referendum every time something happens that the SNP doesn't like.

 

[Alex1975]

:lol: I think you will find that they have got a really big plan.

Get another vote? Gosh, can you imagine if they were too and win it... It would be hard to watch as Scotland quickly went bankrupt, not part of the UK or EU, no currency. Yuk, what a hideous mess it would be. Luckily smarter heads in larger number than the OP get to vote. It is lucky that some people know when things are good and how to be constructive. Shame Shame Shame that some are so unintelligent, naive and self destructive and thus could tarnish peoples wider views.

 

[Foxholer]

What colour glasses were you reading that article with Doon?

Though there's a certain (huge) amount of irony about Conservatives asking the SNP to get on with it!

Many of the points are extremely relevant irrespective of Brexit - but even more-so because it WILL happen! Farming, Fishing and Tourism are the obvious areas where industry development planning is required, especially as the Oil income has been decimated! SNP continue to harp on about growing 'on-shore' revenue! So they need to get on and encourage it! IMO, it's only by doing so that they can truly demonstrate that they are actually govern, as opposed to simply 'administering' (with any deficit being funded by rest of UK) as they can be accused of doing currently!