Foxholer
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Er...Just exactly when is the next opportunity 'they' will have to 'stop voting for them'?!
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Er...Just exactly when is the next opportunity 'they' will have to 'stop voting for them'?!
ger147
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4th May next year.
Foxholer
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While a 'reasonable' barometer of attitudes, Council elections are rarely particularly relevant to those involving REAL power! As in this case, they are often quite early in the 'election cycle', so also inclined to have an element of 'protest' against the negative actions those in power impost early in the cycle - to get them out of the way and forgotten before the 'main election'!
SocketRocket
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The one I asked to the post you replied to.
It involves a knowledge of Scottish politics so I will not hold my breath.
You always speak in riddles when you get tied up with your nonsensical musings. If you cant explain what you want me to answer then I'm not interested in your childish games
ger147
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Was simply answering your question i.e. that's the next chance the Scottish electorate have to vote in smaller numbers for the SNP.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I doubt any Indyr2 will be held for some time - and so it's highly likely IMO that there will be at least one further Holyrood election and another Westminster election before Indyref2. The SNP will want to be sure they'll win an Indyref2 and elections are the best opinion polls.
palindromicbob
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"Opposition party calls for ruling party to start planning for upcoming changes so that they get the best for the people" isn't nearly as catchy a headline I suppose.
Marshy77
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I was in college on Tuesday in my accountancy class and we were talking about ethics, standards and regualtions. Tutor mentioned that she was unsure what would happen with international standards over the next couple of years because of the Brexit. One of the girls in the class who's maybe late teens/early 20's said 'whats Brexit!!' I can't understand how anyone, especially who could vote doesn't know anything about it. Really suprises me.
Doon frae Troon
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You always speak in riddles when you get tied up with your nonsensical musings. If you cant explain what you want me to answer then I'm not interested in your childish games
Was that it....and Alex as well........
You wish the 'bail outs and subsidies' to stop for the SNP but not for he Scottish Tory and Labour parties if they were in control. That is not an answer to the question I asked.
Perhaps you could name a few of these 'bail out and subsidies' you talk about, and while you are at it name some of the Scottish overspending you often witter on about.
You are of course aware that Scotland receives a fixed rate from Westminster. It cannot over spend, the entire period that the SNP have been in control they have come in under budget. They have also started some major infrastructure builds such as the Third Forth Bridge, Borders Railway, M73/M8/M74 motorway improvements and A9 dualing.
Revenue received from Scotland = £53.7billion
Expenditure in Scotland = £68.6billion
A net fiscal balance of -£14.9billion
That's 9.5% of GDP, and against a UK GDP of 4.0%.
All the above figures were publicised in the GERS report.
The SNP may well have come in under budget, but did they set a balanced budget? It would appear not. And it falls well outside the recommended GDP for fiscal stability. The SNP are buying popularity and votes.
Doon frae Troon
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Can you tell me if UK GDP includes Scottish goods shipped from English ports [Whisky etc] and Scottish owned companies with their administration base in England.
Splitting UK/Scotland GDP is not possible [as I am sure you know]
Like I said, "All the above figures were publicised in the GERS report." Maybe you should take it up with your local MSP... However, as EU law stipulates where revenue should be shown in terms of geography and legal entities, I'd be inclined to think the GERS report is accurate.
But I suppose you could say that the UK GDP is dragged up to 4% because of how bad the Scottish GDP is.
Alex1975
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So bankrupt very quickly if Scotland was independent.... Ouch. They should make a plan!
Foxholer
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You always speak in riddles when you get tied up with your nonsensical musings. If you cant explain what you want me to answer then I'm not interested in your childish gamesThe one I asked to the post you replied to.
It involves a knowledge of Scottish politics so I will not hold my breath.
Maybe I'm better at riddles than you, but it didn't take a lot to get back to the post Doon seemed to be referring to. And I think that's the (unanswered) question he was asking. There was at least one other one in the post though.
That grant is NOT the only source of funding for Scotland! Borrowing is one of the additional areas, as is the (as yet unused) 'Tartan Tax'!
However, it's the GERS report that Hobbit referred to that clearly shows that Scotland is seriously spending significantly more - and a far greater amount per head of population than the rest of the UK - than what it is (nominally) earning! Here's a link that might clarify! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/24/ifs-scotland-debts-three-times-greater-uk
Btw. This thread is about Brexit - not Scottish Independence! Get back 'On Topic'!
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FairwayDodger
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Similar disasters though....
Alex1975
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But at least Brexit is what the majority of people want.....
IanG
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It's true that 'Brexit' is what they wanted, but when they see what they will get will the majority still want it ?
I have my doubts
But I still have bigger doubts it will ever come to pass. The long grass is growing, German and French elections looming. Watch this space, but not too closely because not much will be happening soon.... IMHO
Alex1975
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SocketRocket
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I see you've not had that counseling yet. Hurry up before you spontaneously combust. :thup:
Foxholer
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How tedious!
And completely irrelevant to the discussion!Have you read the Forum FAQs recently? '...Be polite, respect peoples’ opinions Criticise ideas, not users...'
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