Brexit Two Months On

[SocketRocket]

How tedious! And completely irrelevant to the discussion!

Have you read the Forum FAQs recently? '...Be polite, respect peoples’ opinions Criticise ideas, not users...'

I have explained to you ad nauseam that I have no wish or intention of debating anything with you. You are aware that due to your policy of stalking my every post it has been pointed out that we should keep a distance. I am doing my best to do that but you apparently find that difficult.

So! Once again; Give it up!

 

[Foxholer]

...due to your policy of stalking my every post

I have no such policy! Nor have I ever have had such a 'policy'!

Let's use some actual data and facts here! To do so (and for no other reason!) I've checked your last 50+ posts. Discounting those involving this sub-discussion, I've replied to 2 or 3! so nowhere near 'stalking your every post' (even if I missed some!). I think I know where any obsession lies!

...I am doing my best...

A D-minus for the fact that you posted #59 then! Clearly not good enough!

There is absolutely no need to reply! To quote from one of your posts (another that added nothing to the actual thread!)... 'Try to resist.' I'll make no bet on your ability to do so however !

 

[SocketRocket]

I have no such policy! Nor have I ever have had such a 'policy'!

Let's use some actual data and facts here! To do so (and for no other reason!) I've checked your last 50+ posts. Discounting those involving this sub-discussion, I've replied to 2 or 3! so nowhere near 'stalking your every post' (even if I missed some!). I think I know where any obsession lies!



A D-minus for the fact that you posted #59 then! Clearly not good enough!

There is absolutely no need to reply! To quote from one of your posts (another that added nothing to the actual thread!)... 'Try to resist.' I'll make no bet on your ability to do so however !

Post 54 is a typical example of how you do it.

Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying: One Do.

 

[Hobbit]

Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying: One Do.

one do free fore?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I was in college on Tuesday in my accountancy class and we were talking about ethics, standards and regualtions. Tutor mentioned that she was unsure what would happen with international standards over the next couple of years because of the Brexit. One of the girls in the class who's maybe late teens/early 20's said 'whats Brexit!!' I can't understand how anyone, especially who could vote doesn't know anything about it. Really suprises me.

Was reading today of the difficulties that Switzerland are having getting agreements in place with the EU to get free access to the single market. One of the biggest issues is around standards. Apparently there are 120 agreements now in place between the EU and Switzerland - each containing the relevant EU legislation.

But the EU legislation is not static - it is dynamic and changes in accordance with directives coming out of the European Court of Justice. And that means Switzerland have to change their agreements in accordance with the ECJ - and that doesn't sit well with them - but that's the deal. How Brexiteers will take to the ECJ making rules for the EU-UK - I am not sure - not exactly the UK taking back control. But as the article said - what else can be done if that's the basis of free access to the single market.

 

[SocketRocket]

Was reading today of the difficulties that Switzerland are having getting agreements in place with the EU to get free access to the single market. One of the biggest issues is around standards. Apparently there are 120 agreements now in place between the EU and Switzerland - each containing the relevant EU legislation.

But the EU legislation is not static - it is dynamic and changes in accordance with directives coming out of the European Court of Justice. And that means Switzerland have to change their agreements in accordance with the ECJ - and that doesn't sit well with them - but that's the deal. How Brexiteers will take to the ECJ making rules for the EU-UK - I am not sure - not exactly the UK taking back control. But as the article said - what else can be done if that's the basis of free access to the single market.

I think there is a growing realism that membership of the Single Market is not what we want if it also means accepting free movement of people, Paying into the EU project, CAP etc. Breaking free from the single market and the straight jacket that comes with it is looking to be a better option for Brexit.

 

[USER1999]

Similar disasters though....

Got a crystal ball? A touch of fortune telling going on here. You don't know Brexit is a disaster, in the same way that I don't know that staying in the EU would be a disaster. I think it, but I don't know it. Even if the EU doesn't fold, in the way I think it will, it may be due to reforms, made in part because of Brexit. The EU as it stands is in a lot of trouble. No one can deny that.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Got a crystal ball? A touch of fortune telling going on here. You don't know Brexit is a disaster, in the same way that I don't know that staying in the EU would be a disaster. I think it, but I don't know it. Even if the EU doesn't fold, in the way I think it will, it may be due to reforms, made in part because of Brexit. The EU as it stands is in a lot of trouble. No one can deny that.

Just an opinion. Already a disaster as far as I'm concerned. Time will tell if that translates into the long term economics or not.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Just an opinion. Already a disaster as far as I'm concerned. Time will tell if that translates into the long term economics or not.

What is it about Brexit that makes it already a disaster?

 

[FairwayDodger]

What is it about Brexit that makes it already a disaster?

We're a laughing stock, an embarrassment.

 

[Pants]

We're a laughing stock, an embarrassment.

You could well be right Karen.


But, what about the rest of the UK?????
:mmm:

 

[ColchesterFC]

We're a laughing stock, an embarrassment.

Who is and with/to who?

 

[the smiling assassin]

You talk about the UK having no plan for Brexit but what plan have the SNP got for independance?

Basically I've heard the plan is that everyone lines up with their backs to the border, pulls their pants down and drop a wee turd over the other side.

Meanwhile everyone in England just carries on.

 

[Foxholer]

Post 54 is a typical example of how you do it.

Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying: One Do.

Yep! That was 1 of the '2 or 3' out of your last 50+ that I have replied to!

I replied to neither #2 nor #23 - though #23 was quoted as it was part of the 'trail' back to Doon's question!

Btw. There is no 'e' in (at the end of) Doon! :rofl:

 

[SocketRocket]

Yep! That was 1 of the '2 or 3' out of your last 50+ that I have replied to!

I replied to neither #2 nor #23 - though #23 was quoted as it was part of the 'trail' back to Doon's question!

Btw. There is no 'e' in (at the end of) Doon! :rofl:

Grow up and 'Do One' That's the only reply you will get from me Odd Ball!

 

[Alex1975]

You could well be right Karen.


But, what about the rest of the UK?????
:mmm:

:clap:

Fairway Dodger... Its looking like you just want to stamp your feet but when asked why there seems to be no substance to your objection.

 

[FairwayDodger]

:clap:

Fairway Dodger... Its looking like you just want to stamp your feet but when asked why there seems to be no substance to your objection.

Think I've explained my view in detail on a number of threads. I'm just not overly keen on arguing through it yet again. It's consistent on the issues of Scottish independence and brexit. I'm not an economist not greatly interested in the tired arguments about whether Scotland/uk is better off in or out of uk/Europe. Personally I think both sides of that argument are lying through their teeth just to further their own preference.

Basically the future of humanity and the planet is best served by coming together and cooperating, removing barriers rather than creating them. Sadly we are moving in the wrong direction, driven by jingoism, nationalism and, in some cases, even racism.

Personally I find brexit and the constant carping for independence to be embarrassing. It's just sad.

As for my laughing stock comment, HID is just back from a conference in Europe at which she was the only British speaker. Lots of brexit chat there and they are laughing at us.

So feel free to disagree with me but try to avoid cheap jibes.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Think I've explained my view in detail on a number of threads. I'm just not overly keen on arguing through it yet again. It's consistent on the issues of Scottish independence and brexit. I'm not an economist not greatly interested in the tired arguments about whether Scotland/uk is better off in or out of uk/Europe. Personally I think both sides of that argument are lying through their teeth just to further their own preference.

Basically the future of humanity and the planet is best served by coming together and cooperating, removing barriers rather than creating them. Sadly we are moving in the wrong direction, driven by jingoism, nationalism and, in some cases, even racism.

Personally I find brexit and the constant carping for independence to be embarrassing. It's just sad.

As for my laughing stock comment, HID is just back from a conference in Europe at which she was the only British speaker. Lots of brexit chat there and they are laughing at us.

So feel free to disagree with me but try to avoid cheap jibes.

And we have heard many commentators in the media say the same thing from their conversations with European (and wider) politicians and policy makers/influencers. But FD - we will be told that that is just hearsay with no evidential basis.

 

[Hobbit]

And we have heard many commentators in the media say the same thing from their conversations with European (and wider) politicians and policy makers/influencers. But FD - we will be told that that is just hearsay with no evidential basis.

Just because, "someone said," doesn't make it evidenced based. It's anecdotal. My experience with my European colleagues who I speak with almost every day certainly doesn't suggest they are laughing at us. They are very worried economically for themselves, and very much want the politicians to get their act together and end the uncertainty.

Also, I'm just back from 3 weeks in Europe. Lots of travelling well away from the tourist areas, and as we like to go where the locals go we like to talk to the locals. There were questions about Brexit but the feeling from the locals was more of a "what have we done wrong for you to want to leave ?"

 

[SocketRocket]

To suggest 'They are laughing at us' is a very big generalisation and probably untrue (That's not a cheap jibe either) It's like suggesting we are all laughing at them or they are a laughing stock.

I am a strong Brexiteer (If I have to carry that label) and think the EU Project is on a road to disaster but I dont think they are all stupid or a laughing stock. They are being manipulated and lied to by the powerful elite but thats not funny.