maybe at the moment but fishing has massive potential, if you see the size of some of the french and spanish vessels that land at Kinlochbervie to off load, could increase our Fishing 20 times what we do now... main reason Aberdeenshire voted tory
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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why not the Q that not Brish boats have are massive, so that would all be taked up by UK boats, might not mtach what the city makes but isn't the whole point the rest of the UK voted Tory was the promis of some wealth spread elsewhere??
what the right thing and what they do might not be the same thing
drdel
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I note the EU plan a quick deal with the USA, ahead of that with the UK. Interesting that a deal with the USA where there has been no real alignment, FOM etc can be accomplished faster that one where there has been an history of 'alignment' for 4 decades.
A lot of fish caught by UK boats is sold into the EU. A good number of boats go into EU waters to catch. Quotas are sold to EU vessels.
The industry is a complicated one.
The industry is a complicated one.
Old Skier
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why not the Q that not Brish boats have are massive, so that would all be taked up by UK boats, might not mtach what the city makes but isn't the whole point the rest of the UK voted Tory was the promis of some wealth spread elsewhere??
what the right thing and what they do might not be the same thing
A lot of fishing fleet owners sold off their quotas to the larger EU fleets going for the quick buck rather than consideration for those they employ, they also realised that EU customers were up for paying more for the product than the British.
SocketRocket
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Many fishing towns on our coasts have been devastated since we joined the EU. Their prosperity needs to be a priority in how we allocate our fishing quotas. No doubt we will allow some foreign boats to fish our waters but priority should be given to British Fisheries.
but the quota won't mean anything after 2020, surley this should be a new begining... Britains future etc
not after 2020, we are out of CFP so UK waters revert to the UK .
I'd imagine most of what is caught is sold in Europe, with no Q where are they going to be buying it from if they can't catch it them theselves?
MegaSteve
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I believe it has only become "complicated" since interference from the Berks of Brussels...
MegaSteve
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Some priority needs to given to 'ordinary' man over 'big business' [the fleet owners]...
The fishing industry would be a good place to start...
Doon frae Troon
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Johnson spends £5M for Scots to Boooooooo him in Cinemas 
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
https://www.thenational.scot/news/1...ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
robinthehood
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Fishing communities voted overwhelmingly in favour of brexit, so it's not unreasonable for them to expect something in return. Sadly there is a misguided belief that the EU is responsible for there issues.
People see quotas EU etc and start frothing at the mouth
MegaSteve
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The 'political classes' need to start prioritising the 'ordinary man' over 'big business' [The City]... If you haven't seen it already check out Ed Balls in Euroland... Folk all across Europe a pretty fed up with bureaucracy/Brussels... If you really want more populist governance then continue ignoring the message from 'ordinary man'...
Old Skier
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Quotas won't but someone will have to rebuild the fishing fleet first.
Mudball
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So a quick question for the Leavers ?
Why do you think UK will be better off without the EU but at the same time think Scotland would be worse off outside the UK?
PS: I dont have a position on either (before you try to roast me for asking logical questions)
Why do you think UK will be better off without the EU but at the same time think Scotland would be worse off outside the UK?
PS: I dont have a position on either (before you try to roast me for asking logical questions)
drdel
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Weird question as the two scenarios are not mutually dependent...
Because the UK has the capacity to maintain a stable economy without an increasing dependence on debt and is better off without the drag on international trade/finance caused by the EU and the waste caused by the undemocratic 'centre'. The EU's debt is rising at a quicker rate than it's growth, yet the 'centre's budget has planned increase well ahead of growth. the EU's aim is for more Federalism (bigger Brussels means higher contributions) that would see UK taking a bigger share of their past debt because of our growing GDP. - Read the new strategic plans written by Ms von da Leyen.
Scotland's independence would be a disaster. Scotland has a very high level of debt (one of highest in Europe and rising) despite the higher per capita income from the rUK. An independent Scotland would need a subsidy from the EU but its debt is too high to qualify for entry The vast majority of trade is with rUK.
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Ye Olde Boomer
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If Trump gets re-elected this coming November, I would invite Scotland to form a new nation with NEW England and perhaps Canada.
Maybe we could get Iceland and Greenland to join to get some kind of continuity on the maps.
I would happily pay higher petrol prices and give up my firearms (which are in storage anyway) to get away from that despicable orange troglodyte.
I do draw the line at haggis, however. How about lasagna, braciole, and chianti as our official national meal?
Maybe we could get Iceland and Greenland to join to get some kind of continuity on the maps.
I would happily pay higher petrol prices and give up my firearms (which are in storage anyway) to get away from that despicable orange troglodyte.
I do draw the line at haggis, however. How about lasagna, braciole, and chianti as our official national meal?
Foxholer
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I agree with this part! I'm dubious about whether the action taken will be particularly effective/enough though!
Next election scheduled for 5 years from 'now'! That's a helluva long time in politics - in spite of (or, indeed, demonstrated by!) the Tories ability to blame Labour for the effects of the global banking meltdown!
Ye Olde Boomer
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Are your Liberal Democrats a spinoff movement from the Labour Party or did they arise independently?
Our Democratic Party looks ripe for such a division.
There are now two very distinct wings, the progressive liberals (possibly similar to European Social Democrats) and the "moderates," "moderate" being a more polite term for "Republican-Lite."
Our Democratic Party looks ripe for such a division.
There are now two very distinct wings, the progressive liberals (possibly similar to European Social Democrats) and the "moderates," "moderate" being a more polite term for "Republican-Lite."
Old Skier
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Over the last few years they have become a mishmash of those than cant make it in their own party" When they where true Liberals they once had a chance but for ease have a read
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_(UK)
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