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And the cost of state operation of the private schools by definition exceeds the cost of the tax exemption saving!
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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And the cost of state operation of the private schools by definition exceeds the cost of the tax exemption saving!
pendodave
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Not sure that merely removing an anachronistic tax exemption constitutes 'state operation of private schools'.
Whataboutery continually used to cloud issues.
The VAT alone for 1300 boys at Eton would be £1.2m. Not all boys pay full fees, £42k per year, many paying 90%. That doesn’t even include other areas of tax exemption for the school.
If you had just one tax collector dealing with Eton’s tax, you’d be paying circa £55k inc pensions cont. and NI. Add in infrastructure costs and you might get closer to £75k.
The guy is only dealing with one school, and he is netting a minimum of £1m. In reality he would be processing, let’s say, 20 schools.
Are you really saying that a cost of £75k is too much when the guy is netting upwards of £20m for HMRC?
USER1999
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If a kid is in private school, they are, by default not in a state school, paid for by the state. So why not make private schools tax exempt, as they are saving the education system the money it would cost to educate them?
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
pendodave
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I chose to spend money on lots of things that have an opportunity cost for me or society as a whole. I play tax on them. That's how it works.
If I spend money on my health and fitness it saves the NHS money. I pay tax on it.
If you choose to buy educational services, or run a business providing them, you should pay tax.
We can be fairly confident the local comp won't be inundated with the scions of the wealthy I think...
As Harold Wilson once said, 'the rich will always be with us' ( after mathew 14.7).
USER1999
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You could also look at private schools as a business that employs 303000 people, accordingvto the head of Eton. Amazon don't pay tax, nor Google, and many others, and this is viewed as kind of ok by the gov, as they are big employers. Any different?
clubchamp98
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That’s the problem Amazon should pay .
pendodave
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Indeed.
A bit like saying "I work really hard so I shouldn't pay tax". All these organisations, and us as individuals, rely on a functioning civilised society to exist. Tax is necessary to ensure that such a thing exists. Get over it.
Kellfire
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Back to Boris. What’s his next step...
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All 11 judges aswell just wow
Kellfire
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To answer my own question, surely tendering his resignation...
Doon frae Troon
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Naw, you would to have some dignity, loyalty and a conscious to do that.
He persuaded the Queen to perform an unlawful act. That seems quite serious to me.
Well done Joanna Cherry in protecting the UK from these idiots.
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We haven't had a beheading in a while
ger147
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The key part of the judgement for me is parliament is no longer prorogued. So I assume Bercow will be in the back of his car heading to the HoC's either this afternoon or more likely tomorrow.
Just my personal opinion but I think the proper course of action in parliament tomorrow is to hear a statement from the prime minister and then the opposition should bring a vote of no confidence to either force a general election as soon as possible or effectively back Boris to continue as PM as right now, he has no authority whatsoever to continue in his role without the explicit backing of either the HoC's or the general public if he wins a general election.
As for Brexit, I would ask for a delay to 31st March to allow time for a general election to be called and whoever wins to sort out how they wish to proceed afterwards.
Just my personal opinion but I think the proper course of action in parliament tomorrow is to hear a statement from the prime minister and then the opposition should bring a vote of no confidence to either force a general election as soon as possible or effectively back Boris to continue as PM as right now, he has no authority whatsoever to continue in his role without the explicit backing of either the HoC's or the general public if he wins a general election.
As for Brexit, I would ask for a delay to 31st March to allow time for a general election to be called and whoever wins to sort out how they wish to proceed afterwards.
Kellfire
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A shame EU laws prevent us from lopping his noggin off, eh?
ger147
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I don't think we should chop Liz's head off just yet, surely she deserves a 2nd chance after her years of service...
clubchamp98
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The thing for me is !
Boris is surrounded by advisors so to say he was lying to her Maj is pushing it a bit ?
He is only relaying what has been said to him.( by the lawyers for HM gov)
It’s been deemed unlawful after the fact.
It’s the right outcome , just not an ideal way to do it.
As every decision in the HOC can be challenged now.
ColchesterFC
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Does this ruling actually change anything? Parliament is closed for party conferences so I assume that it's not going to reopen until after the Tory conference which is close to when it would have opened anyway.
no its not, thats not the judgment of the hearing quite the contrary
Doon frae Troon
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Agree with that, looks like Labours [no] decision yesterday might now be a winner.
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