Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Deleted member 21784]

It may be divisive, annoying and ever lasting

However politics is now interesting

 

[SocketRocket]

I guess we will have more of these self gratifying baboons taking over control of Parliamentary business, turning the prime minister into a puppet to enact their will while not allowing a general election. What kind of country is run like this?

 

[robinthehood]

What a broken country our politicians have created. Between them they have created this absolute pantomime of our parliament. Have they no shame .

100% created by the conservative party.

 

[SocketRocket]

It may be divisive, annoying and ever lasting

However politics is now interesting

Interesting! Its as interesting as someone sticking pins in your eyes.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Interesting! ts as interesting as someone sticking pins in your eyes.

We all cheered like a goal going in when the judges ruled boris had acted unlawfully

 

[drdel]

I think I'll book a Thomas Cook vacation!

 

[SocketRocket]

100% created by the conservative party.

And your post typifies the problem.

 

[SocketRocket]

I think I'll book a Thomas Cook vacation!

A couple of weeks in Syria would be better.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Why don't the SNP hold their conference during the time parliament is closed for all the other conferences?

Why don't they keep quiet . Why is this lot putting their spoke into matters they do not want to be any part of? They want to be in Edinburgh arguing how to govern the nation of Scotland and not any other nation, which would include, the United Kingdom,which would then be England, Wales and N I.
Folks should have this in mind whenever they speak about Brexit, or prorogued Parliament or Boris resigning etc.
Keep in mind their motives. They certainly are not for the benefits of England or Wales or NI.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I guess we will have more of these self gratifying baboons taking over control of Parliamentary business, turning the prime minister into a puppet to enact their will while not allowing a general election. What kind of country is run like this?

tories in control since 2010, but let’s blame everybody else.

 

[jp5]

The hardline Conservative Brexiteers weren't willing to accept Mrs May's deal, and they'll never accept any deal. That's why we're stuck in this situation. I hope they come to their senses or there'll be no Brexit at all.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Why don't they keep quiet . Why is this lot putting their spoke into matters they do not want to be any part of? They want to be in Edinburgh arguing how to govern the nation of Scotland and not any other nation, which would include, the United Kingdom,which would then be England, Wales and N I.
Folks should have this in mind whenever they speak about Brexit, or prorogued Parliament or Boris resigning etc.
Keep in mind their motives. They certainly are not for the benefits of England or Wales or NI.

Goodness me, you seem to be lacking a serious amount of facts in that comment.

UK Supreme Court judgement ….Scottish Courts 11 English Courts 0.
UK Parliament takes back control.
You lost, get over it.

 

[robinthehood]

tories in control since 2010, but let’s blame everybody else.

Exactly.

 

[Taz]

So brexit started in 2010 ?

 

[GreiginFife]

Why don't they keep quiet . Why is this lot putting their spoke into matters they do not want to be any part of? They want to be in Edinburgh arguing how to govern the nation of Scotland and not any other nation, which would include, the United Kingdom,which would then be England, Wales and N I.
Folks should have this in mind whenever they speak about Brexit, or prorogued Parliament or Boris resigning etc.
Keep in mind their motives. They certainly are not for the benefits of England or Wales or NI.

Possibly because what the SNP want to be doing, what the want to be part of or not is immaterial. They are part of it and the people of Scotland are part of it. The SNP hosted a referendum in 2014 and lost, this means Scotland are still part of the United Kingdom along with England, Wales and NI. There is no, would then be England, Wales and NI. There is only the United Kingdom as it stands.

The politicians of England aren't interested in Scotland and Scottish affairs, the Welsh are not all that interested in England or Scotland and the Northern Irish are probably focused on what's in the interests of Northern Ireland. That's pretty much how life works.

Twitter is pretty much hilarious just now, as are some of the responses on here, Conspiracies abound and it's everyone else's fault. The bottom line is, the actions of the leader of our parliament, the leader of our country, has been judged by 11 of the land's highest authorities and been found wanting. That's not someone else's fault. That's like saying the burglar only went to jail because the home owner pressed charges and it's all the home owner's fault, rather than the fault of the person(s) that took the action adjudged to have been out side of the limits of the law.

I also love the twitter cries of "they should appeal it, it's the wrong result" whilst clinging on to the referendum result as being sacrosanct in being respected.

Whilst I am Scottish, I have no love of the SNP and their failed governing. The likes of Doon's constant anti-everything not SNP stance is testament to their proaganda's effectiveness. For me, it's slightly embarrassing that people that would, under normal circumstances, be considered fairly intelligent buy in to the conspiracy nonsense that it's all everyone else's fault.

Likewise, Englanders that slight Scotland every opportunity they get and then talk about chips on shoulders etc, what are we all? 5? Politics, like religion, In my opinion, has a habit of turning normal, rational people into foaming, ravers with nothing more insightful than beyond the limit of their agenda or belief system. No one will change their view point based on the posts on a golf forum, as admirably demonstrated by the length of this thread and the same views being repeated over and over again by the same people.

We voted to leave, whether that was the right or wrong thing to do is immaterial, the vote was held and the result was reached. Therein lies the simplicity of our system overarched by the complexity of or system.

 

[Robster59]

tories in control since 2010, but let’s blame everybody else.

It was a Tory Prime Minister who made the decision to call a Brexit vote to protect his Premiershipand then ran away when it didn't go as he thought it would.
But the lack of input from Labour, and especially Corbyn, during the campaign for the Remain side was appalling. He doesn't care how much the country declines as long as he can get into power.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So brexit started in 2010 ?

Did farage contest that election?

 

[woofers]

So what are they going to do if they all go back to Parliament tomorrow ?
They already passed the bills about the process should there be No Deal before 19 October.
And they all planned to be away at the conferences for 3 weeks now anyway.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It was a Tory Prime Minister who made the decision to call a Brexit vote to protect his Premiershipand then ran away when it didn't go as he thought it would.
But the lack of input from Labour, and especially Corbyn, during the campaign for the Remain side was appalling. He doesn't care how much the country declines as long as he can get into power.

You’re missing out a hell of a lot to jump to Labour, ie, the next tory PM called an election and severley weakened her position, then went on a 2 year negotiation without talking to virtually anybody, split her own party, failed to get her party to back her deal, then run away.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

On Friday the opposition parties can propose a vote of no confidence in LBJ's failed minority government without any fear of LBJ cheating so he can get a no deal Brexit through on 31st Oct..
25 working days rule before calling date for an election.