Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Griffsters]

The cynic in me wonders if they really are Brexit supporters.... Would you put it past the remainers to plant these people? I wouldn't.

This forum is GOLD

 

[Fade and Die]

Unbelievable:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173974198810755073

Utter morons, but fortunately few in number and definitely not representative of the 17M.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Facts can be a tad boring and inconvenient sometimes - particularly if they challenge long held bias.

Would that include the fact that the public were promised that the result of the non-binding referendum would be implemented?

Or is it excluded because it challenges your long held bias?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Utter morons, but fortunately few in number and definitely not representative of the 17M.

Of course they’re not representative of all those who voted Leave, just those of us who were brought up on a council estate.

 

[Fade and Die]

Brexiteers are 'insular, closed and selfish' says Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson

Which is pretty rich coming from someone who has already decided to never accept a vote to leave no matter what majority of people voted for it. She really is utterly deluded.

Cannot see the point of listening to her, it’s like me promising the family we will buy a mansion when I win the Masters next year!😄

 

[Blue in Munich]

Utter morons, but fortunately few in number and definitely not representative of the 17M.

Not according to the usual suspects on here.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The cynic in me wonders if they really are Brexit supporters.... Would you put it past the remainers to plant these people? I wouldn't.

Seriously ? 🤦‍♂️ Just imagine what you would think if someone who voted leave had come out with a statement like that

Freedom of speech. Even scruffy cretins have a voice but they have every right to be annoyed regardless of what council estate they was dragged up from.

Racist abuse is not freedom of speech

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Seriously ? 🤦‍♂️ Just imagine what you would think if someone who voted leave had come out with a statement like that

I'd consider it a possibility, I'm not that blinkered to think that low blows and tricks are beyond politicians who are trying to get their way.... These people are hardly honest are they.

 

[Griffsters]

Would that include the fact that the public were promised that the result of the non-binding referendum would be implemented?

Or is it excluded because it challenges your long held bias?

Its important to all keep challenging the information we read, asking questions and looking for agendas. Regarding Brexit, I think that events that have unfolded and the evidence that has come to light after the referendum simply can't be ignored.

 

[Hobbit]

Facts can be a tad boring and inconvenient sometimes - particularly if they challenge long held bias.

The advisory and non-binding bit is known by everyone and their dog, just as when Article 50 was triggered and the Withdrawal Act was enshrined in law the advisory and non-binding just became hot air and yesterday's news... The UK is almost 3 years past all that rubbish.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'd consider it a possibility, I'm not that blinkered to think that low blows and tricks are beyond politicians who are trying to get their way.... These people are hardly honest are they.

You seriously think it’s a possibility that politicians would stoop that low to organise people to racially abuse people ?!

 

[Hobbit]

You seriously think it’s a possibility that politicians would stoop that low to organise people to racially abuse people ?!

Remind me what John McDonnell incited people to do this year...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Remind me what John McDonnell incited people to do this year...

No idea ? But incite and organise two different levels

 

[Hobbit]

No idea ? But incite and organise two different levels

Of course it is Phil.. methinks you're being obtuse on purpose. Do you honestly believe that McDonnell's version of protest, and that of Momentum is always respectful? Politicians know how people protest, they know their followers and how emotive the subject matter is. To expect anything else is naive, and I don't think politicians are naive.

You've only got to read how Labour's own investigation into anti-semitism was manipulated and corrupted by the leader's office to see just how honest politicians are.

 

[Griffsters]

The advisory and non-binding bit is known by everyone and their dog, just as when Article 50 was triggered and the Withdrawal Act was enshrined in law the advisory and non-binding just became hot air and yesterday's news... The UK is almost 3 years past all that rubbish.

Pretty much every aspect of Brexit has been repeated ad infinitum for the past 3 years and there is still no consensus. If this, but that, he lied , she lied, this will be cheaper that will be cheaper on...and on....and on...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Of course it is Phil.. methinks you're being obtuse on purpose. Do you honestly believe that McDonnell's version of protest, and that of Momentum is always respectful? Politicians know how people protest, they know their followers and how emotive the subject matter is. To expect anything else is naive, and I don't think politicians are naive.

You've only got to read how Labour's own investigation into anti-semitism was manipulated and corrupted by the leader's office to see just how honest politicians are.

I have no idea what McDonnell has done

I just find it amusing that when it’s shown that a bunch of Brexiteers ( or whatever the plural is ) is seen to be throwning racist abuse amongst the odd Nazi symbol the response from some isn’t condemnation of a disgrace act but more trying to deflect blame onto people who voted leave instead. But I guess that’s the way the whole three years have been - many believing they are able to sit up that high moral horse when in truth many are as low as each other

 

[Deleted member 18121]

You seriously think it’s a possibility that politicians would stoop that low to organise people to racially abuse people ?!

I already said I did. Honestly I think it's naive to discount it as an option.... We don't live in a fluffy utopia where people in power won't do whatever it takes to discredit the opposition to get the win.

 

[SocketRocket]

I have no idea what McDonnell has done

I just find it amusing that when it’s shown that a bunch of Brexiteers ( or whatever the plural is ) is seen to be throwning racist abuse amongst the odd Nazi symbol the response from some isn’t condemnation of a disgrace act but more trying to deflect blame onto people who voted leave instead. But I guess that’s the way the whole three years have been - many believing they are able to sit up that high moral horse when in truth many are as low as each other

Careful you dont explode that irony meter again.

 

[Hobbit]

I have no idea what McDonnell has done

I just find it amusing that when it’s shown that a bunch of Brexiteers ( or whatever the plural is ) is seen to be throwning racist abuse amongst the odd Nazi symbol the response from some isn’t condemnation of a disgrace act but more trying to deflect blame onto people who voted leave instead. But I guess that’s the way the whole three years have been - many believing they are able to sit up that high moral horse when in truth many are as low as each other

I’m surprised you can even see us plebs from that high horse you’re never off. And I wasn’t deflecting, just saying that all sides are at it. You took it down to deflecting blame.

Do you honestly think anyone on here defends nazism and racial abuse? I’ve not seen anyone defend it.

But as for annoying protesters, I’ve stopped watching the Beeb’s live broadcasts from Parliament Square because of that idiot Remainer with the megaphone.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I can’t believe people on this forum, regardless of how they voted in the referendum, aren’t simply condemning the behaviour and language in that video.

Post a video of the Lib Dem leader or one of the EU ministers making a statement and people are all over it.

People defending it or questioning who’s behind it is beyond me.......still, didn’t take long to bring Labour in to it.