clubchamp98
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That is not going to go down well with 52% of the people.
Being forced to stay against our will is not on.
But what I expected from an unelected committee.
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Being forced to stay against our will is not on.
But what I expected from an unelected committee.
Old Skier
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But that doesn't take account of previous EU legislation which had been passed in law that we leave on the 31st Oct. Getting better than "House of Cards".
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I’m one of the 52%! Please don’t speak on my behalf, I don’t believe I’m being forced to stay against my will, I actually believe I am being forced to accept a No Deal by the PM’s behaviour and I’d rather stay in till a Deal is sorted.
woody69
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You mean the 52% of the people who voted to leave, rather than 52% of the people right? So approximately 27% of the population, but actually probably a little less due to the fact the vote was 3 years ago now and a proportion of those people are probably dead.
Who is this un-elected committee you mention though?
clubchamp98
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One of the reasons I voted leave was that we would take control of our own law making.
But after watching this bunch of third rate politicians and the chaos they have caused (both sides).
I find I am wondering if they are capable of governing a country.
The EU must be sitting there shaking their heads.
But after watching this bunch of third rate politicians and the chaos they have caused (both sides).
I find I am wondering if they are capable of governing a country.
The EU must be sitting there shaking their heads.
clubchamp98
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I never mentioned any deal.
If you voted to leave you are one of the 52%
chrisd
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100% of people eligible to vote could easily have popped down to the polling station and popped their x wherever they wanted, if they chose not to then they have to be ignored, yes, people have died but then others who may have voted to leave have surpassed the voting age. The vote was a simple majority one and that is that!
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Yes - fine - but what did the French minister actually say.
Because I think that he said what he did in the context of 'if nothing changes'.
So stating that he said that the French will not approve an extension when the request is made could be interpreted as being a little bit disingenuous.
And that is why I asked what he actually said.
If shareholders don't like the approach of management then they can vote them out. Some have a clearly ethical approach that will not maximise benefit but will help everyone sleep easily at night.
Companies do not have to find every loophole. Some decide to take a moral responsibility for the country that they are in and pay taxes in a standard way. Others decide to open shell companies, move money around in the guise of management fees, companies within companies etc and avoid every tax they can do. Have a google for Starbucks in Europe if you want to get really annoyed. I believe at one stage 7 Starbucks incorporated companies, could be more, were involved in buying, selling, moving coffee beans that never actually moved and never left the Starbucks empire. All in the name of tax efficiency (call it that if you like but I know what I call it)
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And an extension granted to facilitate a General Election is likely to be considered by the EU as something that might possibly break the deadlock...?
clubchamp98
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I mean 52% of the people who could be bothered to vote!
A lot of remain voters must have died as well for clarity.
How the young ones who are eligible now would vote is a guess.
The top people in the EU are unelected (committee may be wrong word) I never got a vote for Tusk ,Junker , etc.
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It might take armed rebellion to leave the EU 
Clearing voting out of this highly undemocratic wannabe empire doesn't count!
Clearing voting out of this highly undemocratic wannabe empire doesn't count!
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Agree with the last part but the first part I have no idea, it's like a new UK law going up against an existing but different EU/UK law.
woody69
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Interesting. Can you tell me which law that we have forced upon us by the EU that you disagreed with, or is it more to do with any possible future laws that the UK would have to implement that was your concern? Do you believe that the EU would implement a law that was detrimental to the UK that we would vote against?
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But I want the action they are taking to happen, ie, I want the extension.
You stated the 52% are not happy about being forced to stay!
Beezerk
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Because it may turn around the result he doesn't like.
woody69
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Yes, I am sure some remain voters have died as well, although if you look at the vote breakdown purely on the age groups I think it would be safe to assume you would expect more of the older generation who were more likely to vote leave to have passed away.
And yes, looking at polling data for younger generations is technically a guess, but the results are generally consistent that most of them would not vote to leave.
Ah OK, you are referring to the EU Commission. Have a read of this - http://www.democraticaudit.com/2016/06/23/is-the-eu-really-run-by-unelected-bureaucrats/
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I’d be happy with another referendum, only 2 choices though, Deal or No Deal.
There 100% shouldn’t be an option to remain.
clubchamp98
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That’s really splitting hairs isn’t it.
Do you just fancy a pedantic argument.
52% is a ball park figure used by everyone on this subject, it might be 51.999999999999999999999999999% if your not in.
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