Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[SocketRocket]

Going off at a bit of a tangent, here's one to consider about who doesn't and who does support a No Deal. In the Beeb's own words, 3/4 of Remainers oppose a No Deal, and almost 3/4 of Leavers don't have a problem with No Deal.

That isn't hard to understand at all.

But here's the question; if 3/4 of Remainers oppose a No Deal, and almost 3/4 of Leavers don't oppose a No Deal, why does the graphic on the Beeb's website say the majority of people oppose No Deal?

We know there were more Leavers than Remainers, therefore 3/4 of Leavers is more than 3/4 of Remainers. And its not too difficult to perceive that 3/4 of a bigger number is bigger than 3/4 of a smaller number. Why does the Beeb's graphic suggest otherwise? There will be a little wriggle room in the calculation but... why do the numbers in the graph add up to 103%.

I'm inclined to think I've missed something.

Maybe some floating voters sank.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

My advice would be 'not the rough end '

I’d try it sidewards if it meant he stopped posting.

 

[SocketRocket]

It also didn’t have the date by which we’d leave.

Wasnt that two years after article fifty was started.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Wasnt that two years after article fifty was started.

Seriously! Read what my post was in response to!

 

[SocketRocket]

I’d try sidewards if it meant he stopped posting.

You certainly would need to go to specsavers with your watering eyes.

 

[drdel]

Maybe some floating voters sank.

Or D Abbott is selling maths advice to the BBC

 

[Dando]

What about all the people who voted to leave?
Imo changing the law to get a political outcome is wrong .
That goes for both sides.

He doesn’t give a toss about those who voted to leave

 

[Taz]

Whitehall sources confirm it's possible Bercow could rule out a second election vote under the Fixed Term Parliament Act if the Govt fails to win tonight, limiting future options. One insider says it would be 'truly, truly extraordinary' for Bercow to block an election, but still

 

[Fade and Die]

To the best of my knowledge the word 'deal' did not appear on the ballot paper.
Unqualified 'Leave' was the vote.
As it happens I voted to remain but the voting nation voted to leave. Just do it.

The amount of nonsense spouted about this being an ‘advisory’ vote is contradicted by the evidence of the time – here you can see a copy of the leaflet David Cameron’s government had sent to every household in the country. On page 4 of this document it says…

“This is your chance to decide your own future and the future of the United Kingdom.”

And on page 20 it says…

“This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.”

Nothing about an ‘advisory’ referendum. Nothing about ‘hard’ or ‘soft’ or ‘no deal’ Brexit. The simple choice was between leaving or remaining in the EU and the government said it would “implement” the decision made by the voters.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Anything new ?

Or is it a case of same crap different day

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The amount of nonsense spouted about this being an ‘advisory’ vote is contradicted by the evidence of the time – here you can see a copy of the leaflet David Cameron’s government had sent to every household in the country. On page 4 of this document it says…

“This is your chance to decide your own future and the future of the United Kingdom.”

And on page 20 it says…

“This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.”

Nothing about an ‘advisory’ referendum. Nothing about ‘hard’ or ‘soft’ or ‘no deal’ Brexit. The simple choice was between leaving or remaining in the EU and the government said it would “implement” the decision made by the voters.

Here’s a copy of the Leave Leaflet, promising a Deal, everyone agree’s lots of nonsense is spouted before and during any campaign.
I don’t believe anybody on the Leave side campaigned for a No Deal exit and when Cameron brought it up he was accused of scaremongering.

The Referendum is over, we need to Leave, but, imo, with a deal.

 

[Taz]

Bercow ruling that Queen's Consent is not required for the Benn bill.
Good god, #bercow has usurped the
@TheRoyalFam_FP
he has installed himself as king

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Whitehall sources confirm it's possible Bercow could rule out a second election vote under the Fixed Term Parliament Act if the Govt fails to win tonight, limiting future options. One insider says it would be 'truly, truly extraordinary' for Bercow to block an election, but still

Are you in fact Robert Peston? I didn't have him down as a golfer but he does have mornings free so it does make sense to play golf.

I know some quotes you post are from him, some are not, but every post I read now is in the manner of Peston and i visualise him speaking it 😄. If you are him, please get your bloomin hair cut. That flappy fringe just annoys me.

 

[Foxholer]

What facts are those? You pontificating and telling me what I should and shouldn’t believe or think.
I’d rather stick a pineapple up me @r&£ than take advice from you.

Btw. I'd be happy to provide the pineapple!

 

[Foxholer]

Bercow ruling that Queen's Consent is not required for the Benn bill.
Good god, #bercow has usurped the
@TheRoyalFam_FP
he has installed himself as king

No! He's simply doing his job!

 

[Fade and Die]

Here’s a copy of the Leave Leaflet, promising a Deal, everyone agree’s lots of nonsense is spouted before and during any campaign.
I don’t believe anybody on the Leave side campaigned for a No Deal exit and when Cameron brought it up he was accused of scaremongering.

The Referendum is over, we need to Leave, but, imo, with a deal.

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Can’t argue with that. Shame that Mrs May surrounded herself with remainers and they never tried to get a decent WA...How many of the conservative MPs that Lost the whip were at one time part of her cabinet? I think that’s quite revealing.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Did this guy really do this ?!?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49578400

And people want the likes of him to represent us ?!? Is this a symbol of the Johnson regime.

What a complete spanner ( sorry spanner’s are useful)!

 

[Papas1982]

Here’s a copy of the Leave Leaflet, promising a Deal, everyone agree’s lots of nonsense is spouted before and during any campaign.
I don’t believe anybody on the Leave side campaigned for a No Deal exit and when Cameron brought it up he was accused of scaremongering.

The Referendum is over, we need to Leave, but, imo, with a deal.

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The problem with that bit, is that a new deal cannot actually be negotiated, re trade tariffs until we have actually left as the Eu won’t enterain that as part of any deal.

 

[Taz]

Are you in fact Robert Peston? I didn't have him down as a golfer but he does have mornings free so it does make sense to play golf.

I know some quotes you post are from him, some are not, but every post I read now is in the manner of Peston and i visualise him speaking it 😄. If you are him, please get your bloomin hair cut. That flappy fringe just annoys me.

What hair

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The problem with that bit, is that a new deal cannot actually be negotiated, re trade tariffs until we have actually left as the Eu won’t enterain that as part of any deal.

Doesn’t the negotiated deal with the EU cover everything already ? Obviously the deal is in the favour of the EU and I suspect any future ones will also certainly ensure the EU don’t get the rough end of the stick