Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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IanM said:
The fact we are being prevented from leaving is the clearest indication that we need to leave.
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Are we not being prevented by our own government ? the same government people then expect to look after us ?

Surely the indication there is our own government is worse than the EU
 
So with no deal just about being made illegal, will the remainers who have been bleating on for another referendum with "deal, no deal and remain" on the ballot paper will finally stop banging on about it as it? I'm not sure how they could split the vote in their favour anymore, I'm sure some clever dick with an agenda to stop Brexit with think of one though 🤔
 
rulefan said:
To the best of my knowledge the word 'deal' did not appear on the ballot paper.
Unqualified 'Leave' was the vote.
As it happens I voted to remain but the voting nation voted to leave. Just do it.
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It also didn’t have the date by which we’d leave.
 
I think the remain strategy is to first try andtake no deal off the table, somehow get in to power, and either have another referendum where there is a choice between a terrible deal negotiated by them or remaining. Or in the lib dems case, no need for any voting, just revoke article 50 and remain without any consultation. There was talk of a coup in government, yes there is but the actual coup is the so called remain MP's trying to disrupt and do anything they can to putt off leaving the EU. They are a disgrace to the UK and democracy.
 
Parsaregood said:
Triggering article 50 outlined a 2 year period whereby if no deal was reached we would leave when that period was over. 498 MP's voted for this
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Yes, we know how it works, but my answer was a direct response to a specific post.

As in, every scenario, every outcome will never be covered on a ballot paper.
 
Colonel Bogey said:
It's a national disgrace, how this has been allowed to carry on like this. We voted out 3 bluddy years ago and are still in????? our elected Mp's are blocking what the people voted for. Those that are doing this are a disgrace to democracy. What if we had an GE and Nige won? Would these Remoaners then demand another vote again? and again? and again?

I know lets all vote for Corbin and he'll let everyone in to the country and we'll be over run with christ alone knows how many people that we'll have no chance to pay for.

If this happens I'm off.
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Cya, you won't be missed. x
 
1. ok - last night official line from Labour was they will back an election 'as the Bill to stop No Deal becomes law.' - and the statement referred to Friday night 2. Now, Labour MPs say Keir Starmer told them at the PLP that Labour will NOT vote for an election until the bill has been passed AND implemented, which means AFTER October 19th - which obviously means no chance election until much later on
 
JamesR said:
We want to take back control of our laws from the EU, and give it back to our parliament - but we don't want them to use the power or control they have
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Fret not. I believe that Parliament in the form of the unelected HoL will try and talk the bill out of time...the irony of it all...
 
Kellfire said:
I’d love to know how it’s trolling to hold an opinion held by millions of people.

The people deserve the representation they voted for in the binding votes for MPs, rather than allowing the PM to remove our democratic right to enforce a non binding vote in its stead.

So many people are just handing away their democracy and gift wrapping it for the thieves. Sad.
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You constantly seem to forget that once Art 50 was triggered and the Withdrawal Act became law the non-binding vote was superseded.

I agree that the ref was non-binding, and only advisory but you need to drop the blinkers and realise there’s the Withdrawal Act, comprehensively passed by the MP’s you talk about, that is the binding law now. It’s the WA that was amended to force May to seek the first extension, and it’ll be the WA that needs amending again.

Forget your non-binding ref. As right as you are in what it was you’re just sounding silly by keeping referring to it as though it carries any weight in the current situation.
 
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Colonel Bogey said:
It's a national disgrace, how this has been allowed to carry on like this. We voted out 3 bluddy years ago and are still in????? our elected Mp's are blocking what the people voted for. Those that are doing this are a disgrace to democracy. What if we had an GE and Nige won? Would these Remoaners then demand another vote again? and again? and again?

I know lets all vote for Corbin and he'll let everyone in to the country and we'll be over run with christ alone knows how many people that we'll have no chance to pay for.

If this happens I'm off.
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This is nonsense.

I did enjoy the irony though that you suggest you would leave the country, i.e. become an immigrant in another country because of the fear of immigrants coming to the UK. Nice one.
 
Not sure what WJK's tatics are here, possibly sweeping up a few Tory seats ?

1/ Not allowing Johnson to cut and run for an election simply as a tactic to force through a no deal Brexit is one thing - and why opposition right to insist on passage of anti no deal Bill, BUT...

2/ ...it’s starting to feel like Labour doesn’t want an election at all...and leaving this PM in place knowing he’ll try every trick in book to get what he wants would be irresponsible. Opposition must get Bill through and then seek to force election BEFORE Parliament prorogued.
 
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