Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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No its not.
Yes it is, if the Tories had shown the loyalty to TM that the idiot Johnson now wants we’d already be out, and there’d of been nothing, absolutely nothing, any other party could of done about it.
 
Yes it is, if the Tories had shown the loyalty to TM that the idiot Johnson now wants we’d already be out, and there’d of been nothing, absolutely nothing, any other party could of done about it.
You obviously haven't absorbed that abominable 'deal' - that was more likely to keep us in - then!
 
Still don’t like hard cold facts I see.:rolleyes:
I'm just using the debating style of the poster I was replying to.

Regarding your comment as you seem capable of a reasoned discussion:
MPs never showed loyalty to May as she had negotiated a surrender WA that was unacceptable to she vast majority of the House. She was running scared and pathetic. Boris is clear on his policy whether you agree with it or not.
 
You obviously haven't absorbed that abominable 'deal' - that was more likely to keep us in - then!
I voted to Leave, I never ever voted to Leave with No Deal, the Leave campaign also said we’d have a deal.

1 Party has dealt with the EU, they have never been joined up since TM started the negotiations.

If Parliament had voted for her deal the same way they defeated vote of no confidence we’d be out.

Yes it may of been a bad deal, but we’d be out.
 
Nobody is talking about the 17 labour MP's who are seeking to get 40 amendments to this legislation before they will vote for it in the binding vote. Of the 21 conservative MP's there are certainly more than a few who will vote the other way in the binding vote in order to be able to stand as conservative candidates again, so should certainly prove to be an interesting afternoon/evening in parliament tonight
 
I'm just using the debating style of the poster I was replying to.

Regarding your comment as you seem capable of a reasoned discussion:
MPs never showed loyalty to May as she had negotiated a surrender WA that was unacceptable to she vast majority of the House. She was running scared and pathetic. Boris is clear on his policy whether you agree with it or not.
That’s a different policy to what he campaigned on, why believe him now?

If he’s so determined to get us a good deal why not rip everything up and tell the EU he’ll negotiate from scratch over a reasonable period, surely if he’s that convinced he’s the right man we can be patient.

It’s his threats that aren’t working.
 
I voted to Leave, I never ever voted to Leave with No Deal, the Leave campaign also said we’d have a deal.

1 Party has dealt with the EU, they have never been joined up since TM started the negotiations.

If Parliament had voted for her deal the same way they defeated vote of no confidence we’d be out.

Yes it may of been a bad deal, but we’d be out.
No we wouldn't 😉
 
It's a national disgrace, how this has been allowed to carry on like this. We voted out 3 bluddy years ago and are still in????? our elected Mp's are blocking what the people voted for. Those that are doing this are a disgrace to democracy. What if we had an GE and Nige won? Would these Remoaners then demand another vote again? and again? and again?

I know lets all vote for Corbin and he'll let everyone in to the country and we'll be over run with christ alone knows how many people that we'll have no chance to pay for.

If this happens I'm off.
 
???? Did you not see the Labour MP's who voted againt their leader? There was only 2! How many Labour constituancies votes out?
We didn’t hold the Referendum on constituancy lines.
How I feel about the EU and how this Country is run are 2 entirely different things, as seen by the last GE when TM blew her majority.
 
That’s a different policy to what he campaigned on, why believe him now?

If he’s so determined to get us a good deal why not rip everything up and tell the EU he’ll negotiate from scratch over a reasonable period, surely if he’s that convinced he’s the right man we can be patient.

It’s his threats that aren’t working.
The EU said they are not renegotiating.
 
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