Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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What exactly is tbe point of it ?

Those petitions are for getting the parliament to talk about issues that are ignored or not mentioned - get enough people signing it and they will discuss it

So it’s a petition to ask the government to talk about something they have no doubt already spoken about - and it seems they have already responded

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Government responded
This response was given on 14 December 2018
The deal that we have reached with the EU is the right one for the United Kingdom. Leaving without a deal would risk uncertainty for the economy, for business and for citizens.​

So that’s it - the petition has no meaning now
 
Just picking up on the Brexit debate, but have no wish to read back through all the posts.

I voted leave, and believe this is the best mid to long term decision for the country. We simply can't carry on allowing in millions of EU citizens when we don't have the homes for our own people. This has artificially driven up house prices and held back wages. The whole concept of the freedom of movement is crazy. Needless to say, having little control of our own laws, and financially supporting poorer EU countries also drives me mad.

The Labour party have used this entire situation for their own political needs, and appear to have no genuine interest in the country. TM is in an impossible situation, as a hard Brexit upsets the remainers and moderate Brexiteers, and the EU offer upsets the hard Brexiteers. In short, she is dammed if she does, and dammed if she doesn't. By changing the leader WILL NOT change what is on the table.

The country voted leave, and leave is what we must do. The EU offer will not change, so parliament now needs to decide, hard Brexit, or negotiated deal. Anything else is for political gain, and the idiots who are making our country look a laughing stock should be ashamed
Well said, this is possibly the best post on this entire thread 👍
 
Is this WE You refer to the minority that voted for independence?

An awful lot has happened since Sept 2014 some of it even the day after the result.
Probably a majority now if not anytime soon.....just after Tories and Labour eat themselves. tic toc.

BTW.....Why did you not comment on the behaviour of Soames, is that regarded as acceptable to you?
 
An awful lot has happened since Sept 2014 some of it even the day after the result.
Probably a majority now if not anytime soon.....just after Tories and Labour eat themselves. tic toc.

BTW.....Why did you not comment on the behaviour of Soames, is that regarded as acceptable to you?
A quick google showed me that a lot has changed since 2014. In fact the lasted polls showed it 60/40 in regards to remaining with the uk.

As to his behaviour. They all jeer one another disrespectfully tbh, the context of what they say is largely irrelevant Imo.
 
Well I for one am pleased that we are putting 3500 military personnel on standby just in case of a hard Brexit. Not entirely sure why we would think we need military personnel on standby for something that is apparently such a good thing for the country according to some folks. Perhaps it will be to assist with all the street parties that will be breaking out in celebration. ;)
 
Well I for one am pleased that we are putting 3500 military personnel on standby just in case of a hard Brexit. Not entirely sure why we would think we need military personnel on standby for something that is apparently such a good thing for the country according to some folks. Perhaps it will be to assist with all the street parties that will be breaking out in celebration. ;)
Obviously to hold hand with all the mild mannered remainers who will wish to celebrate the success of democracy.
 
Well I for one am pleased that we are putting 3500 military personnel on standby just in case of a hard Brexit. Not entirely sure why we would think we need military personnel on standby for something that is apparently such a good thing for the country according to some folks. Perhaps it will be to assist with all the street parties that will be breaking out in celebration. ;)
Maybe they spotted you ironing your yellow vest ;):eek::)
 
Just outta interest, I said months ago that I cannot see how a deal, any deal can get through. I said months ago we will be leaving the EU with no deal. I still believe that. I still believe the Tories know there is a way forward without any deal. So is anyone actually Suprised that at the moment, No deal seems to be the only deal that's gonna happen. Unless someone at the EU starts passing bricks from there back end and back tracks on a few issues.
 
Obviously to hold hand with all the mild mannered remainers who will wish to celebrate the success of democracy.

You could be right as there's no better sign of a healthy democracy than 3500 military personnel being put on standby to deal with the potential adverse impact of said democracy.
 
You could be right as there's no better sign of a healthy democracy than 3500 military personnel being put standby to deal with the potential adverse impact of said emocracy.

However, where the government to give a second vote because some people cannot grasp the simple concept of democracy. I think more than 3,500 soldiers would be required.
 
However, where the government to give a second vote because some people cannot grasp the simple concept of democracy. I think more than 3,500 soldiers would be required.
Or they get up set that the deal gets signed or remain happens... no deal is going to be unpalatable to the majority, even those who want to leave. Whether you think it’s scaremongering or not the stock exchange will record a drop ( it usually does as they are a sensitive bunch) and there will be other impacts which no one has even discussed positive or negative..
Fingers crossed those of us who have been dragged into this omnishambles are not affected negatively.
 
Whether you think it’s scaremongering or not the stock exchange will record a drop ( it usually does as they are a sensitive bunch) and there will be other impacts which no one has even discussed positive or negative..

Quite right. The City folk are a sensitive bunch. That's why the possible downside of Brexit (in or out) has been factored in for the last couple of years. The recent additional fall from the FTSE's dizzy heights is more to do with what has been happening in the grand old US of A. If I had any spare cash, I would consider investing now.

Please do NOT consider this advice. It is only my opinion and I am NOT qualified to give financial advice. Remember that the value of investments .... blah, blah, blah ...........
 
Or they get up set that the deal gets signed or remain happens... no deal is going to be unpalatable to the majority, even those who want to leave. Whether you think it’s scaremongering or not the stock exchange will record a drop ( it usually does as they are a sensitive bunch) and there will be other impacts which no one has even discussed positive or negative..
Fingers crossed those of us who have been dragged into this omnishambles are not affected negatively.

Of course it will ............................ and then it will rise again, but I think you already know that.
 
However, where the government to give a second vote because some people cannot grasp the simple concept of democracy. I think more than 3,500 soldiers would be required.

Britain must be the only example in history where people are threatening riots if there's more democracy.
 
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