bluewolf
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By who? The Leavers are the majority remember!
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ColchesterFC
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SiLH mainly, I suspect. And also plenty of other die hard Remainers.
bluewolf
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What does it matter if the minority moan? People always moan. People love moaning. It's the only constant in life other than death and taxes.
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You know this emergency budget that Mr Hammond says he will be forced to introduce in the event of a blind/no Brexit.
How much better off do you think we will all be as a result of it ?
How much better off do you think we will all be as a result of it ?
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Interesting that the budget was so positive and based around an improvement in our economic forecast. Who do you think would gain from a no deal Brexit? Nobody would.....so do you seriously think either us or the EU will allow it to get to that stage? Quite simply, the EU do not want us to leave so they are playing silly buggers but as we get closer to March 2019 they will start to play ball to ensure the best possible outcome all round.
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Perhaps we could look to recent history for some clues, just a few short years ago and the emergency budget that would be needed if the referendum vote was to Leave...
In my case, I'm getting royally shafted following the budget with or without Brexit.
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The last time I remember as many experts predicting a complete meltdown of our way of life, from which we would never recover, was the Y2K bug.
Remind us what happened then?
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Y2K? Alll the IT Division bought bigger houses and new cars!!
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You know why there wasn't a problem with the Y2K bug right? It wasn't because there wasn't a problem. It was because careful planning and important changes/testing were made that prevented it being a problem. It wasn't just all made up.The last time I remember as many experts predicting a complete meltdown of our way of life, from which we would never recover, was the Y2K bug.
Remind us what happened then?
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Interesting study here by the Policy Institute at King’s College London, in partnership with Ipsos MORI and UK in a Changing Europe that shows significant mis-perceptions on some key facts around Brexit.
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/policy-institute/publications/Brexit-misperceptions.pdf
https://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/policy-institute/publications/Brexit-misperceptions.pdf
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Countries such as Italy, Russia and South Korea that had done little to prepare for Y2K had no more technological problems than those countries like the UK and the US that had spent millions to prevent the problem. That’s why it’s dismissed as a hoax.
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Well as Econ and Politics grad with non UK heritage, I'd say the questions are interestingly framed..... but that makes me a poorly educated racist. (apparently)
And Y2K wasnt a hoax, but it was sure as hell overstated! I was working in a major organisation at the time, and at the end of January 2000, the IT Director made a presentation to the board about how he'd saved the organisation fron disaster, then went on to advise that we should pay retention bonuses to all IT staff to manage the UK's transition to the Euro! He was told to foxtrot-oscar!
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Why are they interestingly framed? They are asking which of 3 statements are true.Well as Econ and Politics grad with non UK heritage, I'd say the questions are interestingly framed..... but that makes me a poorly educated racist. (apparently)
And Y2K wasnt a hoax, but it was sure as hell overstated! I was working in a major organisation at the time, and at the end of January 2000, the IT Director made a presentation to the board about how he'd saved the organisation fron disaster, then went on to advise that we should pay retention bonuses to all IT staff to manage the UK's transition to the Euro! He was told to foxtrot-oscar!
And why does it make you a poorly educated racist? The study doesn't make any such conclusions.
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I didnt say they were not true, but the questions about about employment sectors, framed differently would have drawn the opposite conclusion. (according to the ONS)
Item 1251 above: statement made by one of our number that "Leavers are uneducated racists."
Item 1251 above: statement made by one of our number that "Leavers are uneducated racists."
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This is comedy gold.. this smacks so much of a response that Sir Humphrey would give his minister .. she should be proud
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46035919
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46035919
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I never suggested you said the questions weren't true. I just asked why you said they were "interestingly framed", when they simply asked respondents to state which statement they believed in. Please excuse my ignorance, but can you expand on how the question on employment sectors would draw the opposite conclusion?
I don't think the survey suggests leavers are poorly educated racists, just that a significant proportion are/were misinformed
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Did I understand this even vaguely correctly. That the OBR provides the Chancellor with 5yr economic forecasts and analysis of the public finances for his Budget purposes and these are based upon what the government aims to achieve over that 5yr period. And as the government wishes (clearly) to achieve a smooth and painless Brexit then the OBR forecasts used for the Budget had to be based upon the assumption that such a Brexit would be achieved.
Excellent.
Excellent.
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