chrisd
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It's not my job to educate the Remoaners.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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It's not my job to educate the Remoaners.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I wish I could share your optimism. However there are - I fear - too many Moggies out there - who take their lead from him and the likes of Bone, Cash, Redwood, Jenkin, Dorries, Leadsome (oh good grief - what a bunch) and Johnson (nuff said). For whom any weakening on absolute immigration control will be unacceptable and 'not what we voted for' - the Brexit-means-Brexit Brigade.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Well you could try - because I need to understand why I, and many others who know a great deal more about this stuff than I, are wrong and that I am worrying unnecessarily. Leavers seem to know why I am wrong - avoiding explaining simply suggests that Leavers actually don't know - or they don't but daren't tell.
So pray tell. What will happen on 30th March to our trading and other relationships with the EU and across the world in the event of No Deal. It may be complex, but it must be easy to explain in layman's terms because all Leave voters understand it - apparently. I must have missed the explanation during the run up to the Referendum.
chrisd
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You dont need to know, you'll find out when it happens
MegaSteve
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Can't ever see me rubbin' shoulders with many/any 'Moggies'...
Been banned from my local con club as I didn't know when best to keep my trap shut...
Old Skier
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I think you'll find that most of us are educated enough to make up our own minds and are not stupid enough to let minority outburst on rant radio and the Daily Mail influence our thought process.
drdel
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International companies will have ongoing contracts. There's a whole industry of Freight Forwarding out there that work with the Airfreight and shipping industry that will facilitate trade. Their systems and multi-lingual staff can handle the complex variations in tax and duty without breaking into a sweat.
Worry not life will carry on much as before despite politicians.
Doon frae Troon
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Wish I could share your enthusiasm but this is happening even before our hard Brexit.
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/...-being-stopped-at-heathrow-security-1-4783435
Slime
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That's possibly the worst website I've ever visited!
Doon frae Troon
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The Hootsmon:lol:
Recently changed ownership.
Used to be an ultra unionist mouthpiece but circulation figures dropped like a stone.
Insulting the intelligence of nearly 50% of your prospective customers is never a good business model.
It seems to be a bit more politically neutral now [apart from it's letters page
] so we shall wait and see.
spongebob59
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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Indeed - you got it spot on - most of us here.
If you don't listen to LBC I struggle with your description of it as 'rant radio' - the main contributors and presenters are - in the main - trying to inform and understand opinion. Many of the topics covered are covered very seriously, thoroughly and without sensation.
It is true that there is quite a lot of ranting from callers on Brexit - but if you'd care to listen you'll hear views expressed that make it very clear that on Brexit not all who voted to Leave had the foggiest idea about the implications of what they were voting for, and indeed often express views that you should find abhorrent.
Yes there are Remain callers who might not understand the impact and influence of the EU on their lives - but they are by definition mostly happy with their lot - or believe that leaving the EU won't sort their problems. But they are not for jumping into nowhere for the most ill-informed or spurious reasons. And you'll hear a lot of that on LBC if you ever cared to listen rather than simply dismiss.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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And what supported these existing contracts and the trade the freight companies might be able to facilitate? EU legislation, standards, tariffs and quotas I suggest - all of which will be null and void as all EU agreements the UK is part of will cease to apply to the UK on 30th March (Article 50 Para 3)
Your statement is full of assumptions, assertions and wishful thinking.
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bobmac
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Much the same as nearly every post you've made in the last 2 years
MegaSteve
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Romania's Mr Big [number one on the most wanted list] was arrested in Watford yesterday and its quite likely he'll be winging his way back there PDQ... Cross border co-operation, [according to the 'experts'], of this type, would cease... Really can't see it myself...
And you are assuming that a deal won't be done.
drdel
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Perhaps one day you might recognise/give credit that some assumptions, assertions and wishful thinking might originate and be based on expertise. Expressed simply without the need for hyped emotive language.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Well there are some Conservative Party MPs who seem to be wishing for No Deal and such as Dr Fox in the negotiating and trade seemingly happy entertaining the idea that it is the most likely outcome (possibly as it get's them off the hook in respect of trying to agree a deal
)I certainly hope there will be a deal as I'm with such as Dominic Grieve in fearing that a No Deal (with no transition period etc etc) would be a disaster.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Expertise that is no doubt superior to all of that expressed by the wider UK business, manufacturing, industry, commerce, finance and political community - all of whom might know a bit about how we work within EU institutions and agreements and hence what leaving will mean.
Well there are some Conservative Party MPs who seem to be wishing for No Deal and such as Dr Fox in the negotiating and trade seemingly happy entertaining the idea that it is the most likely outcome (possibly as it get's them off the hook in respect of trying to agree a deal
I certainly hope there will be a deal as I'm with such as Dominic Grieve in fearing that a No Deal (with no transition period etc etc) would be a disaster.
might be a disaster.
The true experts, on both sides of the argument, are of equal intelligence. And, equally, are making educated guesses about many things. Much of what both sides have said will happen if any number of circumstances come to pass.
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