Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Hobbit]

Because the risk management plan is a live document - it will not be getting updated periodically. Plus what we have seen is now over a month old and we have not seen any risk management plan. And there will be one that it shows the mitigations that the government is telling us have been put in place or are planned for every risk in Yellowhammer.

No matter the point you release a mitigation plan it is out of date - but I still have to provide my management the current plan whenever they ask for it. I may ask for a couple of hours to refresh it if I know important things have changed - but if they want it now they get it.

The current Brexit RMP will not be very much out of date - if at all. The government's Brexit Delivery team meet daily I believe - Gove will want to see an updated RMP at that meeting.

Wouldn't part of your PM documentation be a Gantt diagram showing your mgt where you are up to with each phase and sub-phase within each task area? I wonder how each Civil Service dept tracks and reports their particular areas?

I'd be very surprised if the respective depts don't have tracking docs. How else would they themselves know where they are up at any given time and where they are against specific dates in the Gantt diagram?

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Which is good to know - but the public doesn't and we are expected to just believe...

Everything the public needs to know is on GOV.UK and the technical notices that have been published.

And by the way, my Government Department is way ahead of my EU counterparts in the advice being published, especially in the event of a 'No Deal'.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

You know about the unicorns? 😉

Imports or exports; fresh, chilled or frozen?

 

[IanM]

Everything the public needs to know is on GOV.UK and the technical notices that have been published.

And by the way, my Government Department is way ahead of my EU counterparts in the advice being published, especially in the event of a 'No Deal'.

Ah, but the EU are not impacted in anyway by any changes and our bit of the sky will fall in!


(The cynic in me thinks the EU know we are staying in and haven't bothered. Whereas the UK Govt have to pretend something is happening)

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Imports or exports; fresh, chilled or frozen?

The ones they sell in Lidl. Oh hang on, that's a German company, maybe we won't be able to get them anymore

Bluddy Brexiteers!

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Ah, but the EU are not impacted in anyway by any changes and our bit of the sky will fall in!


(The cynic in me thinks the EU know we are staying in and haven't bothered. Whereas the UK Govt have to pretend something is happening)

As you know Ian, I cannot possibly comment further! 😉😀

 

[Hobbit]

As I said in my post

Predictions were made by both sides which will no doubt be seen to be untrue

I do believe only one campaign was found to have broken some rules ? I have no idea what has been thrown back into anyone’s face - tried to look at the thread but it seems to have turned into tit for tat insults and point scoring

Sorry for pinching an old post Phil but just wanted to post up an update on Leave spending. The top guy for the Leave.EU campaign was cleared in 3 different investigations by the electoral commission of overspending and financial irregularities. The Police has now also dropped the investigation into spending irregularities.

I wonder if that will get the same high profile headlines that they did at the start of the investigations?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Which is good to know - but the public doesn't and we are expected to just believe...

Funny what some people choose to believe in or choose not to believe in, isn't it.

 

[Hobbit]

Funny what some people believe in or don't believe in, isn't it.

Are you telling me there aren't any unicorns?

 

[Captainron]

Are you telling me there aren't any unicorns?

There are more unicorns than deals....

 

[BubbaP]

Are you telling me there aren't any unicorns?

They're in Iceland




the shop

 

[Hobbit]

They're in Iceland




the shop

Do they do BOGOF's

 

[drdel]

They're in Iceland




the shop

And in Thailand they're alongside the Pork Pies

 

[IanM]

Sorry for pinching an old post Phil but just wanted to post up an update on Leave spending. The top guy for the Leave.EU campaign was cleared in 3 different investigations by the electoral commission of overspending and financial irregularities. The Police has now also dropped the investigation into spending irregularities.

I wonder if that will get the same high profile headlines that they did at the start of the investigations?

What do you think?

Equally, why do you think that various forms spending by UK Government, EU and various iffy overseas agitators in favour of keeping us in are outside the scope of both the spending and the investigations?

 

[drdel]

What do you think?

Equally, why do you think that various forms spending by UK Government, EU and various iffy overseas agitators in favour of keeping us in are outside the scope of both the spending and the investigations?

In all honesty those who control the real international wealth don't much care for the minnows playing politics - been like it for many many years

 

[Jimaroid]

Mods - close this thread down. It's full of ridiculous posts (mine included) and people getting all worked up and emotional.

I've read this thread from afar over the months and years it's been going (plus the old one) and have intentionally restrained myself from commenting on the topic, until now, as this is the first sensible thing anyone has posted in it.

 

[drdel]

C'mon, lighten up why close it? there's no need to take these things too seriously. OK so one or two people will get wound and emotive that's online Forums. The repetition is also annoying but so what. Its a live debate, everywhere in the public domain; treat it for what it is - a few gits with some time to waste on amusing ourselves. Once in a while there's some good points.

 

[Jamesbrown]

Everything the public needs to know is on GOV.UK and the technical notices that have been published.

And by the way, my Government Department is way ahead of my EU counterparts in the advice being published, especially in the event of a 'No Deal'.

Don’t tell people that, they’re only interested in Yellowhammer. That is the brexit bible.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Everything the public needs to know is on GOV.UK and the technical notices that have been published.

And by the way, my Government Department is way ahead of my EU counterparts in the advice being published, especially in the event of a 'No Deal'.

Since you posted this I have tried to do some research reference medication.

It is quite comprehensive about what importers, companies etc should be doing in advance to prepare for a No Deal Brexit.

My question is though, not aimed at you, but asking for any feedback, how does that help me (the man in the street) if there are possible shortages of some medicines as mentioned in yellowhammer, how does it help the patient needing the medication, I can’t stockpile medication as doctors won’t authorise extra prescriptions for people to take their own precautions.
This is just one of the areas a No Deal Brexit concerns me and before anyone tries to claim I might be over reacting, I might be, but while I’m responsible for one terminally ill person and 2 others who are disabled, I can assure you the worries are real.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Since you posted this I have tried to do some research reference medication.

It is quite comprehensive about what importers, companies etc should be doing in advance to prepare for a No Deal Brexit.

My question is though, not aimed at you, but asking for any feedback, how does that help me (the man in the street) if there are possible shortages of some medicines as mentioned in yellowhammer, how does it help the patient needing the medication, I can’t stockpile medication as doctors won’t authorise extra prescriptions for people to take their own precautions.
This is just one of the areas a No Deal Brexit concerns me and before anyone tries to claim I might be over reacting, I might be, but while I’m responsible for one terminally ill person and 2 others who are disabled, I can assure you the worries are real.

I understand where you're coming from - my wife relies on breast cancer medication.

She has been in to see her GP and - most importantly - her pharmacist. Both have reassured her that supplies of the drug are plentiful, and have been reassured by their suppliers over Brexit.

For those worrying over Yellowhammer - and I totally appreciate the concerns - these are worst case scenarios.

I haven't really looked in detail at it but from what I saw there were an awful lot of 'could' in it.

But as a public servant what really grates me are those members of the public who think 'we' (it is us remember who do the donkey work, not the Government) are not doing anything to mitigate those scenarios. I would say a large % of the civil service were remain voters (and still are!) but we are working our arses off to deliver Brexit, whether that's no deal or with a deal.