Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[IanM]

But the "presidents" (and there are several) have been talking "US of Europe" pretty openly for the past 2 years. So Merkel 2.0 is nothing new.

I'm still waiting for the "F" word to appear in official "Remain" literature.... it hasn't and it probably wont.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Yesterday a friend asked me if I had seen Years and Years, I said I really enjoyed it and he replied do you not think we are actually living in this period..... TOO TRUE

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-davies-doctor-who-rory-kinnear-a8911686.html

Highly recommend it.
Emma Thompson as the Trump/Johnson politician is truly brilliant.

PS..........Joy from the Scots MP's https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/09/snp-mps-sing-ode-joy-brexit-bill-vote/

 

[spongebob59]

I hope she doesn't get it. At one time she demanded that German military spending be significantly increased, and won a 6.xx% increase. She then argued for a massive budget increase for equipment and armed forces personnel and won that too.

She was one of several German politicians to demand collateral for financial support for Greece and was well and truly knocked back by Merkel.

Far too harsh a federalist and militarist for my liking.

Shes got the gig

 

[SocketRocket]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brex...backs-on-eu-anthem/ar-AADJES1?ocid=spartandhp

What an absolute shower of zoomers.
I would love to see their reaction if say Pakistan did that to England at the cricket WC.

There's a big clue in their name 🙄

Think of it more like tree huggers at the world caber tossing championships. They really dont like it up em! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[larmen]

The Brexit MEPs turned their backs while the EU Anthem was played.

It’s not a new idea. The original Natzi party has done it in the past, they just picking it up again.

 

[Hobbit]

Pathetic and disrespectful from the Brexit Party MEPs. Wonder if they'll do the same when they come to collect their salaries? We're embarrassing ourselves now.

Amazing isn't it that a week ago many people were criticising the Tory MP who stopped a women Greenpeace protester but shock of shocks, the Brexit party aren't allowed to demonstrate their displeasure....

Double standards? Hypocrisy?

 

[MegaSteve]

Still failing to see who's been disrespected aside from those that voted leave... Still far from having what they democratically voted for delivered...

 

[gmc40]

Amazing isn't it that a week ago many people were criticising the Tory MP who stopped a women Greenpeace protester but shock of shocks, the Brexit party aren't allowed to demonstrate their displeasure....

Double standards? Hypocrisy?

I don’t think the fact she was “stopped” was the issue.

But you already knew that...

 

[IanM]

It’s not a new idea. The original Natzi party has done it in the past, they just picking it up again.

Yes, I will bite....

Ah, anyone with the audacity to resist the Federalists eh? Disgusting insult to the millions put on trains and gassed.

Thought I point that out to you as you clearly are not aware of the difference, or the spelling!

 

[Hacker Khan]

Amazing isn't it that a week ago many people were criticising the Tory MP who stopped a women Greenpeace protester but shock of shocks, the Brexit party aren't allowed to demonstrate their displeasure....

Double standards? Hypocrisy?

Not really as the two incidents are completely different. I'm not really offended by what the Brexit MPs did, just think it's a bit sad and pathetic and doesn't overly portray us as a nation in a great way. But if they want to act that way then knock themselves out, probably says more about them than it does the EU. But I'd hope I am allowed to think that and not be a hypocrite if I also thought the Tory MP was too heavy handed and did more than was needed to 'stop' the protester?

I could also accuse people of hypocrisy if they are fine with MEPs protesting in a childish manner but think it is OK for a MP to do what they he when Greenpeace were protesting. But then again I know that is not a fair comparison and is simplifying the situations to make a cheap point, either so I won't bother.

 

[jp5]

Amazing isn't it that a week ago many people were criticising the Tory MP who stopped a women Greenpeace protester but shock of shocks, the Brexit party aren't allowed to demonstrate their displeasure....

Double standards? Hypocrisy?

Eh?

Is it not possible to simultaneously believe that assault is wrong, and that our elected representatives turning their back on a group of youngsters playing a song is pathetic?

If they have that much of an issue with the EP they shouldn't bother taking their seats, and save European taxpayers their salaries / pensions.

 

[Hobbit]

I don’t think the fact she was “stopped” was the issue.

But you already knew that...

Not really as the two incidents are completely different. I'm not really offended by what the Brexit MPs did, just think it's a bit sad and pathetic and doesn't overly portray us as a nation in a great way. But if they want to act that way then knock themselves out, probably says more about them than it does the EU. But I'd hope I am allowed to think that and not be a hypocrite if I also thought the Tory MP was too heavy handed and did more than was needed to 'stop' the protester?

I could also accuse people of hypocrisy if they are fine with MEPs protesting in a childish manner but think it is OK for a MP to do what they he when Greenpeace were protesting. But then again I know that is not a fair comparison and is simplifying the situations to make a cheap point, either so I won't bother.

To be honest, I’m not too fussed either way with the way the Green peace supporter was stopped. The fact she was smiling as he escorted her out, and the way she didn’t seem overly concerned when she was interviewed immediately afterwards, says way more about all the inflated angst from some.

As for what the Brexit Party did; I’d have preferred it if they’d stood respectfully for the anthem, and saved their demo for when there’s business being conducted on the floor. Equally, I’m not keen on the LibDems t-shirt, but that’s more to do with having to explain to a 7 year old g’daughter what it means.

Anyway, there’s way more important things that need sorting, like social care and needing a bigger cool box down at the pool.

 

[Pro Zach]

It’s not a new idea. The original Natzi party has done it in the past, they just picking it up again.

I had no idea the original Natzi party (sic) were this despicable. Have you evidence for this? If it’s true I’m definitely getting rid of my swastikas and I suggest everyone else does the same. All these years they’ve been portrayed as decent people and it turns out they were a bit rude. I can’t believe it.

Apologies for the sarcasm but I feel it is the only response to any imbecile who tries to relate the Brexit party to the Nazis. It is obscene.

There are still a few survivors of the holocaust alive today. I suggest you ask one of them how the Brexit party compares to the Nazis.

 

[spongebob59]

The EU really are spoiling us now: from the hopeless defence minister who plagiarised her doctorate and the PM who's still in post 6 months after losing a No Confidence vote to the minister who was criminally negligent with €400m of taxpayers' money That's before you even get to Borrell who resigned his last EU post after not declaring a €300,000-a-year conflict of interest, was found guilty of a "very serious breach" of insider trading laws just last year, and likes to get highly aggressive with journalists and protesters

 

[Hacker Khan]

The EU really are spoiling us now: from the hopeless defence minister who plagiarised her doctorate and the PM who's still in post 6 months after losing a No Confidence vote to the minister who was criminally negligent with €400m of taxpayers' money That's before you even get to Borrell who resigned his last EU post after not declaring a €300,000-a-year conflict of interest, was found guilty of a "very serious breach" of insider trading laws just last year, and likes to get highly aggressive with journalists and protesters

Yet we still have Chris Grayling as a minister. Also if we're talking of conflicts of interest then type in the name of our next PM, you know, the person who has a 1000 times more influence over us than a potential EU foreign policy chief ever will, and 'conflict of interest' into Google and see what gives. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right and said lead singer from Razorlight may well be not suitable for the position, but I'd be more concerned over ther lot in Westminster to be honest when it comes to having an real impact on us.

 

[SocketRocket]

Eh?

Is it not possible to simultaneously believe that assault is wrong, and that our elected representatives turning their back on a group of youngsters playing a song is pathetic?

If they have that much of an issue with the EP they shouldn't bother taking their seats, and save European taxpayers their salaries / pensions.

Whats your opinion of the Lib Dems wearing their B*****s to Brexit tee shirts while a group of youngsters play a song?

 

[Foxholer]

I don't agree with either of their stances. But both were excellent examples of what 'peaceful protest' is all about!

And when that sort of protest gets banned, then it's the end of 'proper' democracy imo!

I'm much more in favour of that sort of protest than the invasion of (supposedly) private dinners as happened recently - though I actually support that cause also, just not its more sextreme methods!!

 

[jp5]

Whats your opinion of the Lib Dems wearing their B*****s to Brexit tee shirts while a group of youngsters play a song?

Also inappropriate, not the attire expected for such a workplace!

 

[MegaSteve]

I see the buffoons of Brussels have not been too welcoming of a few home truths...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I see the buffoons of Brussels have not been too welcoming of a few home truths...

link please so that we know what you are referring to?