Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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I see our EU friends are having problems appointing new 'leaders' after two days no decision. I wonder how an integrated EU defence force would get decisions made.
 
...Why does a trading bloc need an anthem?
...or for that matter a Legal System, a Currency, a Flag and an Army! :)
Because it's not JUST a trading bloc!

And even a trading bloc needs Rules. And, because it is (much) more than just a trading bloc, i needs a Legal System!
A single currency within a trading bloc is very likely a good thing too!

As for whether it SHOULD be simply a trading bloc....Well the days for that debate are long gone! And the UK signed up for that expansion and also subsequent ones!

Btw. I don't believe it 'needs' an army, but a Flag is certainly fine - and I'm happy with the current one (adjusted after Brexit).
 
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Pathetic and disrespectful from the Brexit Party MEPs. Wonder if they'll do the same when they come to collect their salaries? We're embarrassing ourselves now.
 
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Ah, but Doon, you've spent 3 years trying to tell us that Federalism is Farage lie... so how is that as offensive as a Sports Team disrespecting the anthem of a Sovereign State?

As ever, I leave you a question and you refuse to answer it.

I have never said that about Farage :unsure:...….that might be a clue to why I occasionally choose to ignore your posts.;)
 
Pathetic and disrespectful from the Brexit Party MEPs. Wonder if they'll do the same when they come to collect their salaries? We're embarrassing ourselves now.

what did they do.. i must have missed the news... too much debate about Bojos coronation rather than real news,.

Just googled it to see they turning their backs to the EU anthem.. This is really shameful. If I watch Eng v Australia .. i would still be standing when the Aus anthem is playing.. This is basic courtesy and manners. They could have chosen not to attend the opening.

I wonder what Farage says about Black Athletes taking the knee for the American star and stripes
 
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Out of interest do you stand for GSTQ?

No problem at all with GDSQ when it is used properly ie British/Royal only occasions.
I have strong feelings against it being used for English/Welsh/NI/Scots only occasions.
England sports teams using GSTQ show a huge level of arrogance IMO. They are representing England NOT Britain.
There have been a few occasions when GSTQ has been used incorrectly when I have not stood.
For an example, at the end of a film, but even Dad's Army did not do that. :love:
I would never be so crass as those Brexit zoomers and turn my back.
 
No problem at all with GDSQ when it is used properly ie British/Royal only occasions.
I have strong feelings against it being used for English/Welsh/NI/Scots only occasions.
England sports teams using GSTQ show a huge level of arrogance IMO. They are representing England NOT Britain.
There have been a few occasions when GSTQ has been used incorrectly when I have not stood.
For an example, at the end of a film, but even Dad's Army did not do that. :love:
I would never be so crass as those Brexit zoomers and turn my back.

Who do you feel they are disrespecting?

For me it would be like standing for the company anthem... OK in some cultures, it's the norm, but not so here in the West I feel...
 
OK. I understand, We now live in a Federal Europe.

Excuse me being misled by the pages of discussion on here denying it.

The hot tip to take over from Juncker as the next European Commission President is German Ursula von der Leyen who once said: “My goal is the United States of Europe – based on the model of the federal states of Switzerland, Germany or the US".
 
The hot tip to take over from Juncker as the next European Commission President is German Ursula von der Leyen who once said: “My goal is the United States of Europe – based on the model of the federal states of Switzerland, Germany or the US".

I hope she doesn't get it. At one time she demanded that German military spending be significantly increased, and won a 6.xx% increase. She then argued for a massive budget increase for equipment and armed forces personnel and won that too.

She was one of several German politicians to demand collateral for financial support for Greece and was well and truly knocked back by Merkel.

Far too harsh a federalist and militarist for my liking.
 
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