Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[drdel]

Oi matey, you forgot those pesky Scotch people in that list.

Is that the bits of Scotland that want to be a minute part of 27 nations rather than a nation among 4 others?

 

[Old Skier]

Is that the bits of Scotland that want to be a minute part of 27 nations rather than a nation among 4 others?

Not sure the EU could take on anyone who wouldn't be a nett contributor the way things are going.

 

[spongebob59]

Adult politics

https://twitter.com/x/status/1108448502437298176

 

[drdel]

So Jeremy Corbyn has walked out of the meeting with the PM and other opposition groups because Umanna was there - I guess he can still stay quiet nd not declare a position on Brexit to anyone for another day or two.

Another demonstration of imaturity, if another was needed.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Is that the bits of Scotland that want to be a minute part of 27 nations rather than a nation among 4 others?

Too true, 66% of bits at the mo…....at least the EU supports it's equal members like Ireland.
Absolutely zilch equality and support coming towards Scotland from this Tory UK 'BetterTogether' Government.
That of course is a Tory government where policy seems to be controlled by the DUP.

 

[SocketRocket]

Looks like Churchill is going to address the nation about the grave times we are in and how we will fight them till we get the same deal signed. It’s at 8:15 tonight.

 

[drdel]

Too true, 66% of bits at the mo…....at least the EU supports it's equal members like Ireland.
Absolutely zilch equality and support coming towards Scotland from this Tory UK 'BetterTogether' Government

Then get Queen Nicola to sort it you have a Government that she runs.

 

[SocketRocket]

Too true, 66% of bits at the mo…....at least the EU supports it's equal members like Ireland.
Absolutely zilch equality and support coming towards Scotland from this Tory UK 'BetterTogether' Government

Does a small country like Scotland expect to get a majority say in the UK or EU come to that. Dream on Doon.

 

[Blue in Munich]

“A short extension will be possible conditional on a positive vote in House of Commons” says @eucopresident. So Brexit delay requires MPs to back PM’s deal at third attempt. Tusk implies he expects a no-deal Brexit.

If we agree that crock of then we won’t need the extension will we. EU are trying to blackmail us into signing up to May’s bad deal and if the House can’t see that then they are even more inept than anyone ever thought, which is one hell of an indictment.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Then get Queen Nicola to sort it you have a Government that she runs.

Jings, you really are more than a bit out of touch with 'UK' politics.

Getting some support from the Oxford Dictionary though.
I wonder how many of those we can get passed the Mods.

https://stv.tv/news/scotland/1436442-scots-black-affronted-as-weegie-word-bawbag-in-dictionary/

 

[spongebob59]

Not me BTW

Having spoken to several of those present at meeting with PM, here’s what I’ve been told happened; - PM restated the case for her deal - Didn’t entertain alternatives seriously - Corbyn didn’t want to take part with Independent Group

 

[Mudball]

Trust the French.. looks like Macron wants to veto extension..

.. MPs now boxed themselves into a corner (and Jezza does not want to be in that corner )

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Well that was a waste of time! Complete hypocrite! Poor me.

 

[Mudball]

WTF was that ‘address’ all about? How many times did she rehearse that esp the ‘Finish, don’t say thank you.. turn and walk away now’ ..

Nothing new in it except blame everyone else

 

[Fade and Die]

Trust the French.. looks like Macron wants to veto extension..

.. MPs now boxed themselves into a corner (and Jezza does not want to be in that corner )

Fingers crossed they just kick us out. 🤞🏻

 

[Leftie]

Nothing changes. France never did want us http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/27/newsid_4187000/4187714.stm

 

[Tashyboy]

I think Theresa May is the Tories version of Labours Diane Abbott.

 

[SocketRocket]

I think Theresa May is the Tories version of Labours Diane Abbott.

And why do you think that Tash?

 

[Foxholer]

Who gets the blame for the financial crisis when Labour was in control?
That responsibility goes with the job.
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Labour certainly did, which was just as wrong - except, perhaps, for a tiny area that they were actually responsible for. But that's how politics and the public work.

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The whole Brexit situation has been badly handled since day 1 and I’d suggest prior to a few months ago very few of the 650 had anything to do with Brexit....

It was totally forsee-able that the EU could/would dig its heels in and force the problems it has. This scenario was even documented! But it was never considered relevant by those who simply wanted (or were convinced) to leave! It may have been handled 'badly', but that was a deliberate strategy by the EU! Remember those, me amongst them, who declared that the EU would deliberately 'play hard-ball' in order to discourage others from going the same way?

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If you could see it was always going to come down to this situation how come no one in the Government could?

I'm certain they could - and did! And decided that this was the 'least bad' way!

As for actually assigning blame in the first place...Try blaming those, particularly MPs, who actually pushed to Leave, then ran away and hid as soon as it was voted in! I believe the vast majority of MPs (all parties) were in favour of Remain. It was only because of growing support to Tories were moving to (or towards) UKIP that Cameron decided he had to stop all the rumblings.

I have little doubt that those same MPs will return to being noisy again once May stands down - as I'm equally certain that she will do at a 'convenient' point once Brexit happens. It was, and was always going to be, a poisoned chalice! And perhaps you should consider looking to yourself if you really want to assign blame for the difficulties that have been encountered. The whole exercise simply reinforces my cynicism of (particularly UK) political attitudes - including the press and 'the electorate'!

 

[Foxholer]

Had Gina Miiller not decided to play games the Executive would have had the power to negotiate and the backstabbing and grandstanding by everyone and their uncle would not have got traction

Perhaps. But Millar 'called foul' about the rules for one side in the game. That was never going to stop the EU from blockading their goal!

And she was (proven to be) absolutely correct to 'call foul' too!