Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Fade and Die said:
Do you really think you life will be “spoiled”? How for goodness sake? There is going to be a few changes but nothing life changing, not even if your a polish plumber!
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You can’t guarantee that - no one can , you don’t know how people’s lives will be affected , people could well lose their jobs ( some already have ) - don’t you think that’s life changing
 
Blue in Munich said:
Sorry but we knew what we were voting for; either to Remain in, or Leave, the EU; the referendum didn't ask us about how we leave. Once the referendum result was in any further screw ups such as triggering Article 50 without a coherent plan in place and the farce that was the negotiations are squarely on the politicians.
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You've just agreed with me. It's a political horlicks
 
Liverpoolphil said:
How exactly can people who voted to stay be blamed what the actions of the government and their Brexit plans - everything that is happening right now is a consequence of voting to leave - what exactly is it you are blaming people who voted to stay for ?
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Because many are trying to frustrate the outcome with calls of a Peoples vote and suggesting leave voters didn't understand what they were voting for. You know the kind of people I mean: Mandleson, Blair, Major and so many others. Everything that is happening right now is a consequence of politicians not accepting the democratic vote and working together to get the best deal for the country. How can you blame people that voted leave for the way the politicians are carrying on playing games with our future.

Try reading my posts and digesting what I say before jumping on your keyboard blinded by your predujiced mindset of anything I post. Its a bit hacknied now.
 
bluewolf said:
You've just agreed with me. It's a political horlicks
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I agree that it's a political horlicks, but your original post seemed, to me at least, to imply that the voters were to blame for voting to leave without knowing how it would be achieved, which I don't agree with. Apologies if I misunderstood it.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
How exactly can people who voted to stay be blamed what the actions of the government and their Brexit plans - everything that is happening right now is a consequence of voting to leave - what exactly is it you are blaming people who voted to stay for ?
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Ah, so the incompetence of the negotiators and the lack of a plan is all the fault of the voters who exercised their choice to Leave at the ballot box, that choice being offered by the same politicians who had no plan and negotiated incompetently. Glad we've sorted that out. :rolleyes:
 
SocketRocket said:
Because many are trying to frustrate the outcome with calls of a Peoples vote and suggesting leave voters didn't understand what they were voting for. You know the kind of people I mean: Mandleson, Blair, Major and so many others. Everything that is happening right now is a consequence of politicians not accepting the democratic vote and working together to get the best deal for the country. How can you blame people that voted leave for the way the politicians are carrying on playing games with our future.

Try reading my posts and digesting what I say before jumping on your keyboard blinded by your predujiced mindset of anything I post. Its a bit hacknied now.
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I can blame the people who voted leave because that’s why we are in this mess but the blame game is a long and tired road now - we are in this mess because of governments past and present

Leaving was always going to a very complicated process - no vote should have taken until that process was explored and we knew “how to leave”
 
Blue in Munich said:
Ah, so the incompetence of the negotiators and the lack of a plan is all the fault of the voters who exercised their choice to Leave at the ballot box, that choice being offered by the same politicians who had no plan and negotiated incompetently. Glad we've sorted that out. :rolleyes:
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I don’t think I mentioned fault in my post and certainly not aimed at people who voted

The country voted to leave with no clear plan ahead - and that’s why we are in a mess right now
 
Fade and Die said:
Do you really think you life will be “spoiled”? How for goodness sake? There is going to be a few changes but nothing life changing, not even if your a polish plumber!
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I voted for the status quo.
Anything that changes for the worse will make me royally pissed off!
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can blame the people who voted leave because that’s why we are in this mess but the blame game is a long and tired road now - we are in this mess because of governments past and present

Leaving was always going to a very complicated process - no vote should have taken until that process was explored and we knew “how to leave”
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What is it that you don't understand about the fact that it is not the voters fault, it's the politicians fault? They offered the referendum and they've screwed up the process; how the hell is it the voters fault?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can blame the people who voted leave because that’s why we are in this mess but the blame game is a long and tired road now - we are in this mess because of governments past and present

Leaving was always going to a very complicated process - no vote should have taken until that process was explored and we knew “how to leave”
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This is you not mentioning fault? :rolleyes:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can blame the people who voted leave because that’s why we are in this mess but the blame game is a long and tired road now - we are in this mess because of governments past and present

Leaving was always going to a very complicated process - no vote should have taken until that process was explored and we knew “how to leave”
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Liverpoolphil said:
I don’t think I mentioned fault in my post and certainly not aimed at people who voted

The country voted to leave with no clear plan ahead - and that’s why we are in a mess right now
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You seem conflicted. 🤔
 
Ok I’ll put it simple - we are in a mess because the country voted to leave - simple as that , the government are making a compete hash of it but we have got to this stage because the vote was to leave
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
You can’t guarantee that - no one can , you don’t know how people’s lives will be affected , people could well lose their jobs ( some already have ) - don’t you think that’s life changing
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Can you guarantee how lives will be affected whatever we do, people are always losing their jobs just like new jobs are being created. Millions of new jobs have been created over recent years. You need to get some perspective.
 
SocketRocket said:
Because many are trying to frustrate the outcome with calls of a Peoples vote and suggesting leave voters didn't understand what they were voting for. You know the kind of people I mean: Mandleson, Blair, Major and so many others. Everything that is happening right now is a consequence of politicians not accepting the democratic vote and working together to get the best deal for the country. How can you blame people that voted leave for the way the politicians are carrying on playing games with our future.

Try reading my posts and digesting what I say before jumping on your keyboard blinded by your predujiced mindset of anything I post. Its a bit hacknied now.
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You mention Blair, Mandy & Major.
They can’t actually affect anything right now though can they?
It’s all in the hands of parliament!
 
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