Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Is it safe to say that the only way there is going to be a “no deal” is if the public get a vote on it and they vote for it? It seems not one single party wants to have a no deal Brexit ?
Current legislation means we leave the EU in March, if there is no deal agreed or article 50 extended then we will leave without a deal.
 
Current legislation means we leave the EU in March, if there is no deal agreed with the EU then we will leave without a deal.

That didn’t really answer the post - that’s just your normal generic statement you blurt out and seems to ignore what is being said in the HoC.

If no deal is agreed up then I have no doubt things will be extended

Thankfully it seems leaving without a deal is the last thing they want to do so they are going to at least make sure there is some sort of deal - thankfully
 
That didn’t really answer the post - that’s just your normal generic statement you blurt out and seems to ignore what is being said in the HoC.

If no deal is agreed up then I have no doubt things will be extended

Thankfully it seems leaving without a deal is the last thing they want to do so they are going to at least make sure there is some sort of deal - thankfully
I repeat, if there isnt a deal agreed or article 50 extended we will leave without a deal. Dislike that as much as you like but its what will happen and answered your question.
 
If the EU say the deal on the table is the deal on the table and it ain't changing. How are we gonna get a deal when we are 200 plus votes from no other deal.
 
If the EU say the deal on the table is the deal on the table and it ain't changing. How are we gonna get a deal when we are 200 plus votes from no other deal.
I have no doubt there will be further negotiations- they aren’t as daft as they seem , long way to go yet , neither side wants a no deal so they will need to find common ground for both even if it means extending timelines. There are no doubt the odd loud voice for a no deal but it seems that’s more a minroty
 
That didn’t really answer the post - that’s just your normal generic statement you blurt out and seems to ignore what is being said in the HoC.

If no deal is agreed up then I have no doubt things will be extended

Thankfully it seems leaving without a deal is the last thing they want to do so they are going to at least make sure there is some sort of deal - thankfully

When Article 50 was triggered, and also enshrined in UK law at the time, if nothing is in place on the 29th March, including an extension, the legal default position is leave.
 
I have no doubt there will be further negotiations- they aren’t as daft as they seem , long way to go yet , neither side wants a no deal so they will need to find common ground for both even if it means extending timelines. There are no doubt the odd loud voice for a no deal but it seems that’s more a minroty

I'd like to think you're right. I think last night's debacle will be surpassed before this unholy mess is resolved.
 
Did you ask them what pressure/lobbying they've been putting on their own Government?
He doesn't understand why we are leaving and wants us to stay. He sees it as a British issue, not a German one. He's my customer, I'm not going to get into a political discussion with him, that is what forums are for ;)

Regarding the statement at 10pm, any chance TM will resign? She seems to be the sticking point, not willing to listen. Will she resign to free up the process :unsure:?
 
He doesn't understand why we are leaving and wants us to stay. He sees it as a British issue, not a German one. He's my customer, I'm not going to get into a political discussion with him, that is what forums are for ;)

Regarding the statement at 10pm, any chance TM will resign? She seems to be the sticking point, not willing to listen. Will she resign to free up the process :unsure:?
I would be surprised if she did but who knows.....all will be revealed very soon 🤔
 
He doesn't understand why we are leaving and wants us to stay. He sees it as a British issue, not a German one. He's my customer, I'm not going to get into a political discussion with him, that is what forums are for ;)

Regarding the statement at 10pm, any chance TM will resign? She seems to be the sticking point, not willing to listen. Will she resign to free up the process :unsure:?

If she does they should put Grease-Mogg in charge to deal with the EU.
 
Perhaps the time has come to stop trying to reach a consensus deal. Everyone is apparently digging their heels in.
So, just announce no more negotiations, we’re getting nowwhere and wasting a lot of time and effort, so announce we’ll just leave with no deal.

If everyone’s so petrified of ‘no deal’ that might shift things along. At the start of all this I believe ‘No deal is better than a bad deal’ was the mantra.
 
The leaders of Plaid Cymru, SNP, Green Party and Lib Dems have published a letter sent to Jeremy Corbyn wanting him to support "a People's vote on the final Brexit deal". Theresa May could announce another referendum with the two options being her deal or no deal and that would technically satisfy the demands for a vote on "the final deal". Of course we all know that they don't really want a vote on the final deal, they want to overturn the result of the first vote, which is why they are suggesting Remain or No Deal as the two options on the ballot paper, as they hope that all of the stories about how terrible No Deal would be would convince enough Leave voters to vote to remain.
 
Yeah, Corbyn really isn't doing himself any favours.

first time ive watched any of it for a very long time, he got destroyed by Gove earlier and now May sticking the knife in.

Its utterly unfathomable that the least successful government certainly of my time is still capable of ridiculing the leader of the opposition with little credible comeback

Cant we tell Europe we'll be a year, fire the lot of them and start again (back into the darkness for me!)
 
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