Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Doon frae Troon]

Not the UK then !
Just some people who want independence how ironic!

Aye...on the same journey as Leavers.

BTW The Welsh, NI and Scots Parliaments/Assemblies are all rejecting May's dodgy deal.
In Scotland it was all political parties except the Tories, whose Westminster MP's will ironically vote against it. How screwed up are they.

 

[Sweep]

Seemingly quite a lot were daft enough to believe the figures and immigrant images on the side of UKIP buses.
So quite a lot would be the answer to your question.

I understand there are people opposed to Brexit. You would have to be living on Mars not to be aware. Quite what that has to do with the timing of the ECJ ruling I am not sure.

 

[clubchamp98]

Part of the UK who are entitled to have an opinion. Unless we think Brexit is just really Engexit.

But they have quite openly said once they get independence they want to join the EU.

 

[clubchamp98]

Seemingly quite a lot were daft enough to believe the figures and immigrant images on the side of UKIP buses.
So quite a lot would be the answer to your question.

The immigrant pictures were on government billboards on trailers as I remember.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Part of the UK who are entitled to have an opinion. Unless we think Brexit is just really Engexit.

Why was it called Brexit and not UKexit which would be more accurate?

 

[Sweep]

This mess is all of our own Govt's making. Cake and eat proved delusional and now we've been found out. But blame the big bad EU.

Why is it the governments fault that the ECJ is ruling on whether the UK can unilaterally withdraw A50?
Why is it the governments fault that the ECJ is trying to influence parliaments decision by the timing of their ruling?
Why is the governments fault that the EU has to make a ruling at all? Shouldn’t this have been considered when A50 was written?
Sounds to me it’s more about you blaming the big, bad UK.

 

[Sweep]

Re the bold bit!
Er, Yes! 'A group of Scottish Politicians'! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46428579

Thanks for the info. Google is your friend.
So, just for clarity. A group of Scottish politicians who are trying to thwart Brexit. So the fact that they are Scottish is irrelevant in this regard.

 

[clubchamp98]

Aye...on the same journey as Leavers.

BTW The Welsh, NI and Scots Parliaments/Assemblies are all rejecting May's dodgy deal.
In Scotland it was all political parties except the Tories, whose Westminster MP's will ironically vote against it. How screwed up are they.

NI havnt got a parliament have they they can’t even agree with themselves never mind anyone else.
I do agree it’s all very complicated
But it’s showing our leaders for what they are , self important incompetents.

 

[Foxholer]

Thanks for the info. Google is your friend.
So, just for clarity. A group of Scottish politicians who are trying to thwart Brexit. So the fact that they are Scottish is irrelevant in this regard.

Shame you didn't use it before posting!

How are you going to repay my time you wasted! £5 to H4H would be appropriate!

 

[Sweep]

Also agree that EU standards are likely to be sound. So I'd ask why we want to potentially opt out of them, or if we are adopting them then surely we'd want a say in devising them.

There are a huge number of mutual recognition agreements on standards between lots of countries, particularly between the EU and US. This gives any nation or union the option of joining in or negotiating a mutual standard. If the standard is high enough there is no need to be involved in devising it. No need to reinvent the wheel. If it’s not high enough you get involved and negotiate a mutual standard. The default position is that the standard is high to overcome objections and remove barriers to mutual recognition. Sometimes in fact the standards can be too high which can be a barrier to trade. Nevertheless, this is the least of our issues.

 

[Sweep]

Shame you didn't use it before posting!

How are you going to repay my time you wasted! £5 to H4H would be appropriate!

I would agree, but as you have wasted so much of my time in the past I suggest we call it quits. 😀

 

[User62651]

But they have quite openly said once they get independence they want to join the EU.

What the SNP say they want and what all Scotland wants are separate issues. EU membership and independence are not directly linked. Some people want both, some want one only and some want neither.

 

[Foxholer]

...Also agree that EU standards are likely to be sound. So I'd ask why we want to potentially opt out of them, or if we are adopting them then surely we'd want a say in devising them. ...

We don't want to opt out of them! That's a consequence of Brexit. And I'd question why we would REALLY need a say in adopting them. Presumably, there are 'International' standards that match or exceed EU ones. If not, then BSI standards COULD be made to cover most products.

 

[Tashyboy]

Sat at stanstead waiting to go to Rome for the weekend and ave thought this for a while. Does Theresa May and her Remain cronies actually want to leave the EU. I mean i know she voted remain but is she actually doung the best job possible for the UK. Me finks not. I cannot quite put me finger on it. But there is a strong smell of the brown smelly stuff with this Brexit situation.

 

[User62651]

Sat at stanstead waiting to go to Rome for the weekend and ave thought this for a while. Does Theresa May and her Remain cronies actually want to leave the EU. I mean i know she voted remain but is she actually doung the best job possible for the UK. Me finks not. I cannot quite put me finger on it. But there is a strong smell of the brown smelly stuff with this Brexit situation.

Dont think she's got any cronies to be fair, Rudd apart. Most of the cabiinet are using her as the fall guy. Not a fan of hers politically but begrudgingly admire her stoicism and class in all this if not her pig-headedness (no Cameron jokes pls). Impossible job presently as parliament has to agree what she wants and that's not proving do-able just now.
Can she pull this vote on Tuesday around? Looking no but stranger things have happended/

 

[bluewolf]

Finally, after reading the last few pages, I'm beginning to understand why some people voted the way they did. Such a shame that it's not going to get them what they appear to want. Still, life's a rollercoaster eh?

 

[HughJars]

The immigrant pictures were on government billboards on trailers as I remember.

Nope, UKIP trailer with Nige in front of it

 

[bluewolf]

Nope, UKIP trailer with Nige in front of it

What, poor old Nige who has now been forced to quit UKIP as it's too Right Wing?

 

[MegaSteve]

Finally, after reading the last few pages, I'm beginning to understand why some people voted the way they did. Such a shame that it's not going to get them what they appear to want. Still, life's a rollercoaster eh?

Don't believe I've ever had a government or bureaucracy deliver what I want... Being disappointed will not be a new experience...

 

[clubchamp98]

Nope, UKIP trailer with Nige in front of it

Are you sure I remember seeing trailers driving around .
Are you here illegally please phone this number !
Am pretty sure it was a home office thing.