Ban Smoking on Golf Courses

[HomerJSimpson]

Can't really see the point of all these stats. Are we really saying if we play with smokers on a course and get a nostril of second hand smoke we'll at greater risk? Really. I play golf with smokers including many from the forum in the past. So what? I'm there to enjoy the game and the company, not worry about someone elses lifestyle choices. What next, ban alcohol from the 19th because of liver disease and diabetes?

 

[Markw]

What would all the anti smoker here say if they was playing with someone who was continuously using an ecig while playing a round with them?

 

[DanFST]

What would all the anti smoker here say if they was playing with someone who was continuously using an ecig while playing a round with them?

That you're actions are going to kill them, and a bus full of blind orphan school children.

 

[KenL]

I am wishing I hadn't started this thread, I didn't realise it would cause so much angst.

I was only trying to get across that golf is a sport and a sport is about health and fitness so smoking cigarettes is not in tune with a sport.

I am not some rampant anti-smoker who rants at anyone who smokes on a golf course. In fact I have never passed comment except to friends when encouraging them to give up out of genuine concern for their health.

Do moderators ever pull the plug on threads, probably time that this bit the dust, no?

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I am wishing I hadn't started this thread, I didn't realise it would cause so much angst.

I was only trying to get across that golf is a sport and a sport is about health and fitness so smoking cigarettes is not in tune with a sport.

I am not some rampant anti-smoker who rants at anyone who smokes on a golf course. In fact I have never passed comment except to friends when encouraging them to give up out of genuine concern for their health.

Do moderators ever pull the plug on threads, probably time that this bit the dust, no?

Someone clearly never saw the HNSP thread!

 

[MadAdey]

How much harm is be really being done to some one stood in a wide open area of fresh air taking in a few very diluted mouthfuls second hand smoke. I personally believe it to be the square route of nothing.

Has as anyone got any scientific evidence to prove otherwise? Yes there is proof that second hand smoke can cause cancer but that is a study showing the carsonogens of second hand smoke. It doesn't show how much damage is actually being caused by the tiny amounts you would take in during a round of golf, unless you stood right next to someone that is smoking, I can't see it being harmful at all.

Do the same people that speak of this second hand smoke lead a perfectly healthy life? I'm sure the burger and chips and the couple of pints used to wash it down in the clubhouse is causing far more damage to their health. Maybe the bottle or 2 of wine at the weekend and the cheeseboard after dinner, the curry and 10 pints of Stella on a Saturday night might be causing more damage too......

 

[Robobum]

Seems that choice is a one way street with this.

If you choose to smoke - live & let live.

If you choose to not breath in 2nd hand smoke - tough, it's only a little bit of smoke in a wide open space.

I've never met a considerate smoker, it's just the way it is. The onus is on me to keep out of the smoke trail and I'm fine with that because breathing in the smoke, regardless of how small the amount, repulses me.

Having to get a fag but off my line is disgusting and reinforces my thoughts about smokers.

That doesn't mean they're not nice people, just not considerate of others when smoking.

 

[londonlewis]

Well it's only a 50/50 chance of lung cancer - well it's all good then

What's the percentage for a non smoker I wonder.

It is estimated that 10 million people in the UK smoke.
http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_93.pdf

43,500 people contract lung cancer in 2011
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can...cerstats-key-facts-on-lung-cancer-and-smoking

If everyone who gets lung cancer is a smoker (which we know is not correct) 0.43% of smokers will contract lung cancer each year.

Let's assume that every smoker starts smoking at 16 and dies at 76 (60 years of smoking) the percentage of the initial 10 million that will contract lung cancer will be 25.8%. But this is taking into account the most extreme version of these facts. So the true amount of going to be less.


I am confident that there will be many other factors which cause people to get cancer, including lung cancer but scientists haven't had to prove it yet.

Examples:
Diesel cars. Initially people were told that diesel was a cleaner fuel to use in cars, that it didn't pollute as much, that it wasn't as bad for your health. We are now being told the complete opposite. They got it wrong, they are bad for the environment and terrible for your health.

Sugar. We were initially told that people were obese because they ate too many trans fats etc... and that sugar was not a problem. Sugar is now enemy number one. (I am not claiming sugar is going to cause cancer, I am purely providing an example of something we were never told was a serious health issue).

I'll think of more if I need to.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Seems that choice is a one way street with this.

If you choose to smoke - live & let live.

If you choose to not breath in 2nd hand smoke - tough, it's only a little bit of smoke in a wide open space.

I've never met a considerate smoker, it's just the way it is. The onus is on me to keep out of the smoke trail and I'm fine with that because breathing in the smoke, regardless of how small the amount, repulses me.

Having to get a fag but off my line is disgusting and reinforces my thoughts about smokers.

That doesn't mean they're not nice people, just not considerate of others when smoking.

Sums it up pretty well.