Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I saw a player spark up on last weeks golf coverage, cant recall who though
Even on the few courses where smoking is already banned the ban is usually suspended if a pro tournament is held there
Ban Smoking on Golf Courses
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I saw a player spark up on last weeks golf coverage, cant recall who though
Even on the few courses where smoking is already banned the ban is usually suspended if a pro tournament is held there
SugarPenguin
Challenge Tour Pro
Think he was smoking in Dubai earlier in they year if I recall. Its not banned but as people have mentioned they dont seem to show it.
I dont see wy they should ban smoking on courses though. Each to their own.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
While I have no issue with people smoking during a round of golf, I must admit I think the pros should be banned from doing so. IMO not the sort of example to be setting for impressionable young minds.
SugarPenguin
Challenge Tour Pro
True. But Jimenez is Jimenez.
Do you teens really look up to him though? I thought the youngsters liked Rory and Ricky etc...
To be fair if Rory pulled out a roll up at the masters that would be quite something.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I think that's taking their (limited) function as role models a little too far and for the most part, those that smoke are probably the least likely examples of players that youngsters will want to emulate, I think they'll more likely look at Rory etc
(although some of the on/off course antics of some players set much poorer examples for these impressionable young minds than lighting up would do)
colint
Tour Rookie
Not making anything up, comes from Cancer Research website. One error though, it says cancer or other smoking related illness. Same outcome though
"The fact is that half of all long term smokers eventually die from cancer, or other smoking-related illnesses. And half of those will die in middle age, between 35 and 69."
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
To be fair they're not exactly sitting on the fence on this one and will always present a stat in such a way that it endorses their own agenda (however commendable that agenda may be and regardless of the accuracy/other interpretations of the stat)
jamielaing
Q-School Graduate
hey up, were sneaking in a few forum distances now in as well
20 odd pages and no distances... have to throw it in.
Rooter
Money List Winner
True. But Jimenez is Jimenez.
Do you teens really look up to him though? I thought the youngsters liked Rory and Ricky etc...
To be fair if Rory pulled out a roll up at the masters that would be quite something.
My lad was watching the golf last week, bare in mind he is nearly 6. Imagine my surprise when i came it to the living room to see him with a glass of Rioja and a cuban cigar!
6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
loads of golfers smoke so do their caddy our Ryder cup capt could do 40 a round and had to hide the fact he smoked when on tv,you often see them puffing away on a gasper,i dont see any harm in it.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
Now this I can believe. But the difference in statements is 'half of all smokers' vs 'half of long term smokers', not the same thing.
richart
Major Champion
colint
Tour Rookie
Splitting hairs in my opinion, who smokes short term ?
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
If you believe that all smokers are long term smokers, your statistic is false.
50% of people who smoke do not ultimately die of lung cancer or other smoking related illnesses. They never have, never will.
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Deleted member 15344
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Well it's only a 50/50 chance of lung cancer - well it's all good then
What's the percentage for a non smoker I wonder.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
I don't smoke because I think it's cool and I certainly don't consider myself a moron. I smoke because, believe it or not, I enjoy it. I love the taste and enjoy trying different tobaccos.
I have played with the same friends for nigh on 30 years, plenty of them non smokers. None of them have ever commented and I bet if you asked them, they would not be able to tell you how many cigarettes I had smoked during a particular round. They are playing golf with me because believe it or not they enjoy my company. The fact I smoke matters not a jot.
I have played with the same friends for nigh on 30 years, plenty of them non smokers. None of them have ever commented and I bet if you asked them, they would not be able to tell you how many cigarettes I had smoked during a particular round. They are playing golf with me because believe it or not they enjoy my company. The fact I smoke matters not a jot.
richart
Major Champion
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Lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in the United States for both men and women. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
Lung cancer is the most preventable form of cancer death in the world. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
Lung cancer estimates for 2014 (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014):
New cases of lung cancer: 224,210
Males: 116,000
Females: 108,210
Deaths from lung cancer: 159,260
Males: 86,930
Females: 72,330
Women smokers are 25.7 times more likely than women who never smoked to develop lung cancer. For men smokers, it’s 25 times the risk of men who never smoked. (Source: US Surgeon General Report 2014)
Besides lung cancer, tobacco use also increases the risk for cancers of the mouth, lips, nose and sinuses, larynx (voice box), pharynx (throat), esophagus (swallowing tube), stomach, pancreas, kidney, bladder, uterus, cervix, colon/rectum, ovary (mucinous), and acute myeloid leukemia. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
In the United States, tobacco use is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 deaths; this equals about 480,000 early deaths each year. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014; and US Surgeon General Report 2014)
Tobacco use accounts for at least 30% of all cancer deaths, causing 87% of lung cancer deaths in men, and 70% of lung cancer deaths in women. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
Cigarette use has declined dramatically since the release of the first US Surgeon General’s Report on Smoking and Health in 1964. Even so, about 20.5% of men and 15.8% of women still smoked cigarettes in 2012, with about 78% of these people smoking daily. (Source: CDC, Current cigarette smoking among adults – United States, 2005–2012, 2014)
Cigarette smoking among adults age 18 and older who smoked 30 cigarettes or more a day went down significantly from 2005 to 2012 – from 12.6% to 7.0%. But still, more than 42 million American adults smoke cigarettes. (Source: CDC, Current cigarette smoking among adults – United States, 2005–2012, 2014)
Cigars contain many of the same carcinogens (cancer-causing agents) found in cigarettes. Between 2000 and 2011, sales of small cigars had decreased by 65%, while large cigar sales increased 233%. (Note: the definition of large cigar changed in 2009, so that much smaller cigars are legally defined as “large cigars.â€) Cigar smoking causes cancers of the lung, mouth, throat, larynx (voice box), esophagus (swallowing tube), and probably the pancreas. (Source: CDC, Consumption of Cigarettes and Combustible Tobacco – United States, 2000–2011, 2012; Office of the Inspector General, Dept. of the Treasury Audit Report, December 21, 2011)
Little cigars are about the same size and shape as cigarettes and come in packs of 20, but unlike cigarettes, they can be candy or fruit flavored. In most states, they cost much less than cigarettes, making them far more affordable – especially to youth. A 2012 CDC survey found that more high school boys had smoked cigars (16.7%) than smoked cigarettes (16.3%) in the past 30 days. About 8% of high school girls had smoked a cigar in the past month. (Sources: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014; CDC, Tobacco Product Use Among Middle and High School Students – United States, 2011 and 2012, 2013)
Among first-time tobacco users, nearly 2.7 million smoked cigars, while 2.3 million smoked cigarettes (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 2012 National Survey on Drug Use and Health, 2013)
In 1997, nearly half (48%) of male high school students and more than one-third (36%) of female students reported using some form of tobacco – cigarettes, cigars, or smokeless tobacco – in the past month. This went down to 23% for male students and 18% for female students in 2012, and included electronic cigarettes, snus (a type of smokeless tobacco), dissolvable tobacco, and other types that weren’t even around in 1997 – along with cigars, cigarettes, and older types of tobacco. (Sources: Cancer Facts & Figures 2010; CDC, Tobacco Product Use Among Middle and High School Students – United States, 2011 and 2012, 2013)
Each year, about 3,400 non-smoking adults die of lung cancer as a result of breathing secondhand smoke. Each year secondhand smoke also causes about 42,000 deaths from heart disease in people who are not current smokers. (Source: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
Among adults age 18 and older, about 20% of men and 3% of women have ever used smokeless tobacco. Nationwide, about 11% of US male high school students and about 2% of female high school students were using chewing tobacco, snuff, or dip in 2012. (Sources: Cancer Facts & Figures 2014)
Smokeless tobacco products are a major source of cancer-causing nitrosamines and a known cause of human cancer. They increase the risk of developing cancer of the mouth and throat, esophagus (swallowing tube), and pancreas. Smokeless tobacco kills fewer people than smoking, but using any form of tobacco harms health and can cause death. (Source: Cancer Prevention & Early Detection Facts and Figures 2010)
Between 2009 and 2012 smoking-attributable economic costs were between $289 and $332.5 billion each year in the United States, including $132.5 to 175.9 billion for direct medical care of adults. (Source: US Surgeon General Report 2014)
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DanFST
Head Pro
Thats all well and good, but the thread has gone off topic.
If you're over 6 foot away from a smoker outdoors, there is no trace of the smoke inside you.
second hand smoke isn't a massive killer. Even in confined indoor spaces.
As i said before I like the ban in general, but this is just goody goodies slating other peoples lifestyle choices.
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I'm guessing you have the scientific facts to back up the statement ?
What's you definition of "massive" - one person dying from second hand smoke is one person too many
