Are We a Nation of Bottlers?
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jimbob.someroo
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Off to get my popcorn
haha nah i'm not biting
happy to leave it at that. If people are content with us doing okay-ish in our sports then that's fair enough.
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Ok fair enough point mate , can we go back to her last match then, saving 3 match points (i think) to come back and win , the other girl bottled it then it wasnt that she played extremely well (your words i believe) and came back ?
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And so back to the Brits as bottlers - rethink today perhaps?
Or were Australia, Djokovic, Contador, Evans et all of the TdF peleton poor and if they'd performed anything like they could then things would have been different from where we sit today. I guess we Brits were just lucky this weekend and the miseries will have us still s***, and will continue to tell us that the fantastic triumphs of Brits in the Paralympics and Paralympics were a flash ion the pan - a mirage - an illuision. Ah well - they can wallow in their miseryt and I'll continue to celebrate 'Great' British sporting success all over the place.
Or were Australia, Djokovic, Contador, Evans et all of the TdF peleton poor and if they'd performed anything like they could then things would have been different from where we sit today. I guess we Brits were just lucky this weekend and the miseries will have us still s***, and will continue to tell us that the fantastic triumphs of Brits in the Paralympics and Paralympics were a flash ion the pan - a mirage - an illuision. Ah well - they can wallow in their miseryt and I'll continue to celebrate 'Great' British sporting success all over the place.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
...and I forgot - GMac wins the French Open
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Fantastic weekend for British sport and great individual and team performances. Not sure that Team Sky's success in the Tour can entirely be included with more than half their current squad being non-British (17/27), but am more than prepared to claim it as one
Still don't think that this one weekend makes up for some of the disappointments of the past, mentioned earlier in the thread, but hopefully the times are a changin'. Fingers crossed for The Ashes and The Open!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Bottlers..........strange expression. I assume it means a baby crying after it has lost it's bottle.
So in answer to the post ..NO.
We seem to be all over the place with this one, England one moment, Great Britain the next.
England expects..............way too much of it's sports stars.
First woman player to get to round 4 of Wombledon, and she gets ripped to pieces by 'fans' and media when she loses.
Plenty of British golfers with 'bottle'! Cotton, Lawrie, Faldo, Padraigh, and G Mac are good examples.
So in answer to the post ..NO.
We seem to be all over the place with this one, England one moment, Great Britain the next.
England expects..............way too much of it's sports stars.
First woman player to get to round 4 of Wombledon, and she gets ripped to pieces by 'fans' and media when she loses.
Plenty of British golfers with 'bottle'! Cotton, Lawrie, Faldo, Padraigh, and G Mac are good examples.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And we Jocks expect way too little - as I was a fully signed-up members of Ally's Army I know what OTT expectation feels like and also the feelings of consequent failure. So I set myu expectations low and wonderfully find that they are almost always exceeded.
stevie_r
Tour Winner
No mate, it means not having the mental strength and courage to see something through to a successful conclusion if things get a bit tough or when the chips are down etc etc.
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Yup, not as has been misinterpreted throughout this thread as someone just playing rubbish or losing to somebody playing well.
More somebody in a commanding position 'throwing it away' as in Laura Robson in the first set serving at 5-2 up in the tie-break, or the England Cricket team against India needing not all that many runs with plenty of wickets left and crumbling.
Plenty of examples of us showing bottle which have been brought up by others earlier in the thread. But IMHO Chris Froome claiming the yellow jersey isn't one he's simply the best in the field with the best team around him.
Martin Kaymer holing that 5 footer to retain the Ryder Cup or Justin Rose's defeat of Phil Mickelson in the same comp are pretty good examples of 'having bottle'.
It's a bit of a naff word I guess, but thought 'choke' might have been a bit harsh?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I don't think we as a Nation have exclusive rights to bottling by any means.
There's been plenty from "Jonny Foreigner" in recent times....
Mickleson at Merion and Scott at Lytham to name just 2 from Golf
And if you look deeper at the PGA I'm sure you'll find many instances.
Get into other sports and you'll be able to fill your boots
All top athletes are capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Mainly coz we're Human....
There's been plenty from "Jonny Foreigner" in recent times....
Mickleson at Merion and Scott at Lytham to name just 2 from Golf
And if you look deeper at the PGA I'm sure you'll find many instances.
Get into other sports and you'll be able to fill your boots
All top athletes are capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Mainly coz we're Human....
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I am aware of what the term means but wonder how it originated.
Lost his bottle.........of what?
Pills, whisky, lemonade, magic spells.
Lost his bottle.........of what?
Pills, whisky, lemonade, magic spells.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I'm guessing - if you've got bottle you've got the guts to go into a 'bottle' fight at risk of getting bottled.
stevie_r
Tour Winner
I guess you searched the interweb and didn't find a definitive answer then? Neither did I.
ps magic spells do not come in bottles - they are found in books
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I guess you searched the interweb and didn't find a definitive answer then? Neither did I.
ps magic spells do not come in bottles - they are found in books
Aladdin may disagree.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Greg Norman was a well known 'bottler' was he not?
